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i am trying to locate information about my grandfather Leonard Miles. He was born in abergavenny in 1902. On the 1911 cenus it states his parent were john ans louisa miles. Louisa has been married twice her other four children were named ansty or anstey. My grand father use the name anstey in is later years. John was born in hereford and louisa in raglan monmouthshire. It state all the children were born in monmouthshire. When i tried to locate leonard miles the son of john and louisa, there dose not seem to be a birth certificate. i have tried monmouthshire, herefordshire, glouc, and the forest of dean , with no luck. Can anybody give me any details or advice of where i go nex?.

Person: MILES, Leonard
Address: 2 Lewiss Yard Indorstreet Abergavenny

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MILES, John Head Married M 37 1874 Masons Labourer Kingsland Hereford VIEW
MILES, Louisa Wife Married
9 years F 41 1870 Raglan Mon VIEW
ANSTEY, William Stepson Single M 24 1887 Masons Labourer Llanfoist Mon VIEW
ANSTEY, George Stepson Single M 20 1891 Masons Labourer Llanfoist Mon VIEW
ANSTEY, Alice Stepdaughter Single F 16 1895 Domestic Abergavenny Mon VIEW
ANSTEY, Edwin Stepson Single M 13 1898 Abergavenny Mon VIEW
MILES, Leonard Son Single M 9 1902 Abergavenny Mon VIEW

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Thank you, I already had this information. there is a typing error it should be tudor street and not indor street. It is his bith certificate i cant locate. I believe is mother was an anstey before miles and her maiden name was jones. i have located various registrar and have had no luck. Can you give me any advice?

Could Leonard's birth be registered in the surname that his mother was using before she married John Miles, please?

Is this her marriage to John - they may have married after Leonard was born.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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MILES John Chepstow 11a 3
MORRIS Louisa Chepstow 11a 3

Thank for the information. I have already looked in to that marriage. I have found out that her maiden name was Jones. But still cant find a birth certificate. Louisa was a jones then anstey, then miles. IAccording to the 1911 cenus leonard was nine and they had be married for nine years.

Just because they said they were married, doesnt mean to say they were or maybe not as long as they said

1901 they were together as man and wife so Leonard was definately a Miles,but yet he married and died as Anstey is that correct.

Maybe he had a big fall out with his real dad.

Maryb

I have had a look at miles anstey and jones, but i cant come up with anything. I tried abergavenny registra who told me they did get married but she used the name anstey, but i forgot to ask what year. Louisa was previously married to a thomas ansty who died in 1943 aged 37 that i found her maiden name. I had to look into one of the other childrens birth certificates to find the mothers maiden name of alice anstey.

Hi Mary,

On his Wedding certificate it stated miles otherwise anstey, but he used the name anstey throughout his married life, my mothers name was anstey. I dont know why he used that name it could have been he was using the name of his step-brothers and sister and he didnt want people know. according to a family member he had a good relationship with John Miles who died in 1943

Those dates do not tie in...but did they divorce then, which was unusual for those days

Do you have her marriage to Thomas please?

sorry wrong info. Thomas anstey died about 1887/1888. In 1901 cenus john and louisa live at oldcastle, llanvihangle crucorney monmouthshire, leonard wasnt born then.

not sure of the year but William the eldest child was born in 1888. The information i was given was they were married in monmouthshire. Louisa was born in Raglan monmouthshire.

thomas death

Name: Thomas Anstey
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 37
District: Abergavenny
County: Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 30 (click to see others on page)

sorry william the son was born in 1883

So Louisa was born 1870 according to 1911 census and had William 1883,something wrong somewhere.

Maryb

Yes that Thomas the father to the other children, I believe there were four which you have already gave me the info.
I still need to know where Leonard fits in. I am reallywondering wether he had a different name, or was given to them?

For Ref.

1901 Census

Name: Louse Miles
Age in 1901: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Oldcastle
Ecclesiastical parish: Oldcastle St John the Baptist
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Llanvihangel
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
John Miles 33
Louse Miles 36
William Ansty 13
Alice Ansty 8
Edward Ansty 3


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4928; Folio: 57; Page: 4.


Thomas's death??

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
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Anstey Thomas 37 Abergavenny 11a 30


EDIT

Sorry Jax - I just noticed you had posted that death while I was searching about!



Pat, Do you have the birth certificates for those all those Anstey children? Was Louise the mother to any of them? Could they have been adopted or foster children of John's rather than Step children in the way we mean today?

Hi Pat.
When/where and under what name did Leonard die please?
Chris
p.s. Also - did he have a middle name?

Is this Edward's birth please? Did he have a middle name? Just wodering as the registration district is the same as that John Miles marriage posted.



Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
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Anstey Edward Keene Chepstow 11a 2