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Birth details for Henry John Fison c1822

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John

John Report 4 May 2010 19:22

Henry John Fison b c1822 in Paddington seems to be the son of William Fison and Maria Sabina Ruffell(Russell). However, William and Maria were married in 12/10/1828 some six years after the birth. They had a child Peter Fison in 1830 followed by Emily, Walter, Alfred etc. which seems a natural result of the marriage in 1828.
I can find no trace of the birth of Henry John Fison. He may have been the result of an earlier marriage of William or Maria but I can find no trace of this possibility.
Can anyone suggest how to resolve this problem.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:25

1911 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, Henry John
Address: High Street Pampisford Cambridgeshire
FISON, Henry John Head Married M 89 1822 Retired Butcher London VIEW
FISON, Emily Wife Married
34 years F 59 1852 Wyton Huntingdonshire VIEW
FISON, Helen Ethel Maria Daughter Single F 19 1892 School Teacher Pampisford Cambridgeshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:27

1901 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, Henry John
Address: Butcher's Shop, In Village, Pampisford
FISON, Henry John Head Married M 79 1822 Butcher
Paddington
London VIEW
FISON, Emily Wife Married F 49 1852
Wyton
Huntingdonshire VIEW
FISON, Alfred W Son Single M 23 1878 Slaughterman
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, Helen E M Daughter F 9 1892 Scholar
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:30

Hmm some inconsistency here with place of birth
maybe why you cannot find him

1891 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, Henry John
Address: Butchers Shop, Pampisford
FISON, Henry John Head Married M 69 1822 Butcher
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, Emily Wife Married F 39 1852
Witton
Hampshire VIEW
FISON, Alfred Walter Son M 13 1878
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, Emily Kate Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, Sidney Cripps Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire

Barbara

Barbara Report 4 May 2010 19:31

Marriage cert should confirm father's name (hopefully);-

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
ASHTON Emily Linton 3b 1125 Scan available - click to view
Fison Henry John Linton 3b 1125

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:32

no convenient family members so far.


1881 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, Henry John
Address: ?, Pampisford
FISON, Henry John Head Married M 58 1823 Butcher
London
Middlesex VIEW
FISON, Emily Wife Married F 29 1852
Wittam
Huntingdonshire VIEW
FISON, Alfred Walter Son Single M 3 1878
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, Emily Kate Daughter Single F 1 1880
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:39

Name: Henry J Fison
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 90
District: Linton
County: Cambridgeshire, Essex
Volume: 3b
Page: 528 (click to see others on page)

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:41

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about John Henry Fishon
Name: John Henry Fishon
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 12 Aug 1821
Father's Name: John Henry Fishon
Mother's Name: Susannah Fishon
Parish: St Mary, Whitechapel
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

His father was a sugarbaker

K

K Report 4 May 2010 19:47

Henry's possible family 1841- in 1851 Maria is listed as born in Paddington and all children born Cambridgeshire

Name: Maria Fison
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Pampisford
Hundred: Chilford
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Linton
Sub-registration district: Duxford
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Fison 40
Emby Fison 10
Walter Fison 8
Alfred Fison 6
Cripps Fison 4
William Fison 2
John Brown 15
Hepsbr Ruffell 25

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:47

But this does not tie in with what you have at all.

What sources have you you used to think he was the son of William and Maria?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 19:51

1851 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, William
Address: Pampisford
FISON, Maria Widow F 50 1801
Paddington
London VIEW
FISON, Alfred Son M 16 1835 Ag Lab
Pampisford VIEW
FISON, Cripps Son M 14 1837 Ag Lab
Pampisford VIEW
FISON, William Son M 12 1839 Ag Lab
Pampisford

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:01

Seem to be only Fisons in the village


1861 census - household transcription
Person: DISON, Maria
Address: High Street, Pampisford
DISON, Maria Head Unmarried F 61 1800 Stay Maker
Paddington
Middlesex VIEW
DISON, Alfred Son Unmarried M 26 1835 Engineers Labourer Mill In Papermill
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire VIEW
DISON, ... Son Unmarried M 24 1837 Employer In Paper Mill
Pampisford
Cambridgeshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:03

1871 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, Maria
Address: The Chequers, Pampisford
FISON, Maria Head F 70 1801 London VIEW
FISON, John Son M 45 1826 London VIEW
FREEMAN, Sarah Ann Servant F 18 1853 Cambridgeshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:26

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Edward Alfred Walter Fison
Name: Edward Alfred Walter Fison
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Spouse Name: Rosie Pratt
Spouse Age: 29
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Oct 1904
Parish: St Thomas, Streatham Hill
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Henry John Fison
Spouse Father Name: William Pratt

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:26

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Lydney Criffs Fison
Name: Lydney Criffs Fison
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Emily Sarah Bowell
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Jan 1901
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Kensal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Henry John Fison
Spouse Father Name: Isaac Clark Bowell

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:30

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Emily Fison
Name: Emily Fison
Death Registration Month/Year: 1928
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Linton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 443

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:39

Icannot find Henry before 1881
I cannot find Henry with William or with John Henry.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:41

A thought

1851 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, John
Address: 25, Green Street, Saint Michael, Cambridge
BAINBRIDGE, Thomas Head Married M 46 1805 Lodging House Keeper
Newton
Durham VIEW
BAINBRIDGE, Mary Wife Married F 46 1805
Denton
Durham VIEW
MERRY, Sephy Servant Unmarried F 28 1823
Wilbraham
Cambridgeshire VIEW
FISON, John Servant Unmarried M 29 1822
London
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 4 May 2010 20:44

Is john Henry John?


1871 census - household transcription
Person: FISON, John
Address: The Chequers, Pampisford

FISON, Maria Head F 70 1801 London VIEW
FISON, John Son M 45 1826 London VIEW
FREEMAN, Sarah Ann Servant F 18 1853 Cambridgeshire

John

John Report 4 May 2010 20:47

Death cert for Maria Sabina Fison gives William as husband and Henry John Fison as son present at death. Note Fison spelt as Fyson on this cert.

Henry lives with mother Maria in most of the relevant census' of the 1800s.

Copy of banns of marriage and marriage record from Christ Church Spitalfields for William and Maria.

Birth place for Maria and Henry John is given as Paddington. William's birth place is not clear.

1877 Marriage cert for Henry and Maria gives William Fison as father of Henry.