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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 15 May 2010 08:32

For Irish records try having a look at the Record Pilot search at www.familysearch.org

I have had a quick look. If you start by looking for Charles McCormack (more likely to be McCormick in Ireland) as he is only 3 months old on that 1901 census so we know that his birth will be registered before they left Ireland. I can only see 1 that is likely and that is in the Ballycastle District of Antrim.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordResults
&givenName=Charles&birthYear=1901&birthPlaceId=1927084&birth
PlaceLoc1=Ireland&searchType=close&surname=McCormack


You can then look for the births of the other children in the same area to narrow the search.

Application forms to order Irish certificates are here
http://www.groireland.ie/

To purchase you can send euros by signed for mail. If you give the references from the Record Pilot site the cost of certificates is a wee bit cheaper.


annies

annies Report 15 May 2010 01:23

thanks for all your help I would never have got this far.For the Irish side Mary Jane McCormack what is the best place for Irish records.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 10 May 2010 09:16

I think that all ties in and we have the correct family for Mary Jane.

annies

annies Report 10 May 2010 07:05

1st November 1907 St Aloysius Church Glasgow Edward McVey(Cabinetmakers Assistant) age 21 Father John motherMaryJane Devine
Mary McCormack 19, Father Edward mother Alice (on her birthcertificate mother is listed as Ally and her age is
different on the marriage certificate .Her name is spelt differentlly as well.My( Dads name was Charlesif that helps with anything)

Aileen

Aileen Report 9 May 2010 09:38

There are marriage record for 1887 Co Derry for both Edward McCormack and Alice McCreanor but it costs 5 euros to view each record and although I'm fairly sure it will be them I don't have any credits left

Aileen

Aileen Report 9 May 2010 09:32

Death for Edward

1939 MCCORMACK EDWARD M 73 SPRINGBURN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

parents given as John (Farmer) and Rose ms Agnew (both deceased)

cert signed by Charles McCormack (son)

Aileen

Aileen Report 9 May 2010 09:18

? Possibly other children who died.

marriage for Edward and Mary Jane

1907 MCVEY EDWARD MCCORMACK MARY MILTON GLASGOW/LANARK

Found a death for Alice

1933 MCCORMACK ALICE MCCREANOR F 69 SPRINGBURN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK

Parents given as Charles ( Farmer) and Elizabeth ms McErlane (both deceased)

cert was signed by Mary McVey

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 May 2010 09:16

Aileen, do you think that could be a second marriage for Edward? Nearly 6 years between Mary and Charles. I am sure it is the correct family so it looks like they had only been in Scotland for 3 months at most. The only thing that concerns me is Mary's age and I am wondering if Annie has the correct birth certificate.

Annie, when did Edward and Mary Jane marry please?

Aileen

Aileen Report 9 May 2010 09:06

I have tried the 1911 census for Ireland but haven't come up with anything so far. Also tried for a marriage of Edward and Alice but again so far nothing.

Edit

Well done Rootgatherer.....that would explain why I couldn't find them in Ireland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 May 2010 08:40

Good morning Annie. This certainly looks like your Gran. Address is correct although her age is a wee bit out. Port Dundas is the same district as Stirling Street! Their name has been mistranscribed as McCornack but is almost certainly McCormack.

1901 census

Name: Mary Mccornack
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Port Dundas
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 9 Broomhill Street
ED: 54
Household schedule number: 107
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_289
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Mccornack 33 Chemical Labourer,b. Ireland
Alice Mccornack 32 b. Ireland
Margt Mccornack 12 b. Ireland
John Mccornack 10 b. Ireland
Mary Mccornack 6 b. Ireland
Charles Mccornack 3 mo b. Ireland
John Green 23 Boarder, Chemical Labourer, b. Ireland
Charles Mercer 30 Visitor, Chemical Labourer, b. Ireland

Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Port Dundas; ED: 54; Page: 21; Line: 10; Roll CSSCT1901_289; Year: 1901.




Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Port Dundas; ED: 54; Page: 21; Line: 10; Roll CSSCT1901_289; Year: 1901.



EDIT

If Edward and Alice had more children in Scotland then the birth registration will give you / confirm the date and place of Edward and Alice's marriage.

annies

annies Report 9 May 2010 00:30

On my grandfathers(Edward McVey) wedding certificate he was
living at 28 Broomhill Street Glasgow and John his father was listed still as a Potter I assume he would have been living with his parents as my Grandmother MaryJane(Macormack) was listed at 9 Broomhill Street,Glasgow
would this be of some help?I was wondering if you cold find any information on her parents. They were Edward Macormack and Ally (Alice)nee McCrenor My grandmother wasborn in Ballynease Ireland district of
Bellaghy,Union of Magherefelt, County Londonderry16th May1890 I have her birth certificate. I dont know when or how they arrived in Scotland.I have my Grandparents wedding certificate that is the only information I have on both sides of my Dads family . It is confusing with both sides having an Edward and a Mary Jane.

Aileen

Aileen Report 8 May 2010 19:45

Thanks Rootgatherer....I've bookmark that for future reference....not a site I've used before.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 May 2010 15:04

There was a Stirling Road in Glasgow at that time which I think would come under St. Rollox area then.


EDIT

Stirling Street, Cowcaddens Now called Dunblane Street, C4

From memory, if you're looking at a present day map it will be found around Port Dundas Road and Milton Street. Very near the present day Cowcaddens Fire Station.

This is a useful site for Old Glasgow Street names.

http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/info-streetschanged3.html

annies

annies Report 8 May 2010 14:59

thank you

Aileen

Aileen Report 8 May 2010 10:02

John's address on the marriage cert is 53 Stirling Street Glasgow and the marriage was registered in Milton for St Joseph's Churgh (of which there are 7 in the Glasgow area).....there doesn't seem to be a Stirling Street listed on Google maps there is a Stirling Road and a Stirling Street in Cumbernauld. I will try the National Library for old maps.

annies

annies Report 7 May 2010 14:44

thank you I will try and register this weekend and see what I can find also about hugh Mc Vey because i dont think his dates match up .I will have to study them more I am really not sure what I am doing !!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 May 2010 08:56

There is some information about Glasgow potteries here

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid=533642

John's address on his marriage entry may help identify which pottery he may have worked for.


For Statutory Scottish records, you should register with www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk The site is pay to view but very reasonably priced. 30 credits cost £6 - 1 credit to view search results and 5 to view / download register entries. Entries for births prior to 1909, marriages 1934 and deaths 1959 are available online. For more recent events you have to order certificates and this is more expensive. Statutory registration began in Scotland in 1855. Scottish birth certificate post 1860 give the date and place of the parents' marriage. Marriage certificates give the names of the bride and grooms parents including the mothers' maiden surnames also the occupations of the fathers and the age of the bride and groom.



annies

annies Report 6 May 2010 22:23

I would be gratefull for any information as i am new to this and This is definitely them although besides my grandfather Edward I only recall hearing about Maggie and Hugh I dont recall the other namesMy dads brother was also called John and scouller was his second name when i asked about it years ago I was told it was a family name,so that line seems to be right as well.M y Dad and his family all immigrated to Aust. around 1949/50,and have all passed away so I do not have anyone I can obtain information from, .Would anyone have any idea what pottery place John may have worked or how I could find that out Thank you for any help youmay be able to give me regarding my famiy. or to steer me in the rightdirection.

Aileen

Aileen Report 6 May 2010 11:35

I wonder if this is the Scouller family but listed as Boyce.

1851 census

Name: Frances Boyce
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayres B S, Buenos
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow College
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 90 Havannah
Occupation: Washer Woman
ED: 11
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 75
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_159
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Boyce 45
Margt Boyce 18
John Boyce 16
Barbara Boyce 13

Aileen

Aileen Report 5 May 2010 12:28

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