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Hi Anne,
Many thanks for your kind offer.

I am looking for the birth of JOHN OLIVER b. c1811 - possibly in the Woolwich area. I have no parents for him but do have his marriage to Mary Ann Warren (of Plymouth) and the birth of their son John Peter Thomas Oliver in 1845 Plumstead.

John is shown in the 1841census at Woolwich Arsenal, Royal Artillery but cannot find him in the 1851. He may have died in 1856 but waiting for confirmation from GRO. There is a Will dated 1856 in favour of his wife Mary Ann, who remarries in 1860.

Hope this is not too much information.

I greatly appreciate your help.

Reece

Hi Debbie,
It looks like you already knew about Arthur, as you have him on your tree.
I think the best thing to do with John Moses is to order the death certificate. That would confirm it for you. As you are already aware of the other Tampion family in Deptford.
I also found a Herbert, and on checking saw that you have that one as well!!!. If you are the same Debbie on Genes with the Tampion family.?? Let me know if you need anymore help as I do have some info on Mottingham and Deptford but not as much as Woolwich and Plumstead.
That is I have on disc the parish records for St Marys, St Nicks, St Lukes Charlton Bexley and Eltham. If the children where not baptised it is very hard to confirm parentage, as you probably know.
Hoping this helps just a bit
Anne

Debbie
The family actually come from Deptford, Greenwich.
John the father born Essex, Mother Ann , Suffolk.
I have found one more child Arthur, born 1870.
I have nothing at the moment for John Moses.
Does this help
Anne

Hi Ann

Please could you look for John Moses Tampion born 1872 and died 1873 at Woolwich . I would like to know if his parents were John warren & Anna Tampion .

Could you also look for any known children of this couple . the ones i have are Lucy Anna , Alice Maud and Lydia Louisa .

Many thanks Debbie

Hi anne i dont know if you can help but here goes i am looking for the birth detail,s of rose young i have found her on the 1911 census she is down as being born 1898 plumstead london. father was george young born 1848. spouse was jane. any information will a great help . thank you michael 2.

Thanks Anne,

For finding the burial place for Ann Dallas. She is my 3xgt grandmother originally from Scotland. If I’m ever down near Woolwich, I’ll go and visit St Mary Magdalene church.

Thanks too for the baptismal records (1833 and 1836) Grandchildren to the above Ann Dallas.

Good to have this information.

Appreciate your help,
Helen

I wouldnt attach any significance to her status, as in many cases when the spouse has been dead for more than a few years its sometimes ommited.
Did you know that Mary was buried at Acton August 3rd 1889.

Hi Julia,
Nothing yet, I know they didnt marry in either St Marys or St Lukes , so will carry on searching for you
Anne

I have a James Dallas baptised Sept 1832 to a John and Margaret Dallas?
Sarah Ann Dallas born 10th April 1832 baptised March 19th 1833 at St Mary Magdalene, Father James mother Sarah living at Church Street Woolwich. Fathers occupation Bootmaker
James John Dallas born 9th Sept 1835 and baptised 25th Septemberr 1836 at St Mary Magdalene Father James mother Sarah residing New Road, and a bootmaker
Regards
Anne

Hi Helen,
Ann Dallas was buried in St Mary Magdalene church Woolwich 5th March 1837. Aged 41 and residing before her death at New Road Woolwich.
Anne

Helllo ,

I have tried for months to find information about a leeson family
who i have on a 1911 census at 12 Daniels road Nunhead Camberwell.
On this Census it says they were married. for 5years found one marriage in 1908 wrong marriage.
But we assume not now they could not have been married
So we thought perhaps they could have married after 1911 .
Noticed on free bmds woolwich also covered Camberwell John leeson was born 1865 in shorditch. and mary 1871 no surname.
Only birth we found is for john,
Any suggestions please

Hello Anne,

I found the death for Ann Dallas in Woolwich ... March 1837.

Would you happen to know which cemetery she would be likely to be buried in.


Would also appreciate a search for:

Birth/Baptim:
Sarah Ann Dallas .. c.1834
James John Dallas .. c.1836

Both in St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich

Thanks,
Helen

Hello Jill
Do you have marriage records?
George Edward Scott and Isabel Mary Friday married inthe Woolwich area in Jun Q 1904.
Their children were both born in Willesden - I've only found two.
George and Isabel were both born out of the area, in Kent.

Thanks for looking..
Julia

Anne, thanks for your kind offer. It would be useful for me because some of my descendants were from Woolwich/Plumstead. My late grandmother was born in Woolwich.

However, her mother (my great grandmother), Gertrude Allen Rutherford was fostered in 1889 by James and Mary Rutherford. I have their censuses from 1890 in Plumstead, 1901 (Rook) in Woolwich and 1911 in Woolwich. I am unable to find her birth registration. In the censuses, 1891, her birth of place was Lambeth and 1901 was Woolwich and 1911 was unknown.

Her birth of date was 21 Dec 1888, according to her baptism record from the UK ancestry and her biological parents were John and Margaret Allen from 1 Rush Grove (could be close to the Arsenal).

Could you please find out if John Allen worked in the Arsenal? I would hope to get information about him and Margaret.

Also maybe there would have school records of Gertrude to see where she was born ?

Gertrude Rutherford was married to George Baker in 1914 at The Register Office in Woolwich. George was a soldier. Gertrude was laundress (perhaps in the Arsenal).

Thanks, Steven

Acton, I believe. Let me check her death certificate. I have a family picture about mid 1880s (no definitive date) where Mary is present but no Thomas.

Added: In July 1889 Mary died at Acton (where her daughter lived). She is 'wife of Thomas Cook firework Maker'. Is it significant she is not noted 'widow'?

Another daughter was the death informant. Perhaps this daughter did not think to say if she may have been a widow.

Barry

If this is the correct one and he was still living in the Parish of St. Nicholas the only burying ground would have been Charlton Cemetary, as Woolwich didnt open until 1884 and Plumstead 1890. I only have the burial register up until 1859 for St Nichs.and he wasnt buried in St Marys, I have checked.
Where was Mary living when she died? have you a record of this?
Anne

Thank you, Anne. Much what I have, too.

Good night!

Barry

Have found a death of a Thomas Cook in Greenwich 1881
Qtr JFM 1d 639, born circa 1810. The only way to be sure is to order the death cert.
He was pensioned from the Arsenal (from the 1861 census)
Have had a quick look at the family and they where all Firework makers. John, Samuel and James.Will have a look tomorrow, as its late now.
Anne

Thomas and Mary look as if they lived at 3 Essenden(?) Lane, Plunstead, in 1871. Thomas is noted as Foreman at the Arsenal.

William? So have you found Thomas on the census 1871?
That will definitely be a starting point