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the birth of Rose born March quarter 1920 ties in with the info that you have.

do you know Eileen's married name?

you need to write down all the info that you have in date order, keeping the generations together ie parents and then list the children and who they married etc

keep a record of where you got the info from

you can only verify things by getting certificates

we was told rose was born jan 1920 but i think that was to put us off the truth

i think that that is what i am trying to find out

no eileen is amelia girl but if i am right eileen had 3 girls so they would be amelias gran children

just what i was thinkiung victoria

it just say alfren i do know he was in and out of a mental hospital he might of been in there pluss his son william went to war cos he lost a leg or arm i only got told the william went to war no one elce can i just say thank you to all that is helping me i would be very lost with out your help

sorry , where is Eileen coming from?

the Clay children mother is Amelia Annie Jacobs - did she call herself Eileen?

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Jacobs Rose C Jacobs London C. 1c 25

seems to me that Rose was probably illegitimate daughter of Amelia Annie Jacobs who was the daughter of Alfred and Amelia Ellen

michelle
on the marriage cert you have for rose does it say her father has a middle name or is it just alfred as in the 1911 census i have posted earlier its says amelia was married but no sign of alfred but there is a alfred william away at war so that would explaine why shes on herown with the children

plus i was thinking that if rose may was amelia & alfreds child they would have been rather old when she was born could she have been one of there daughters born out of wedlock & thats why she was adopted ??? just a thought
jacky

that is them if i am right eileen had 3 girls only

i have rose mays marrage cert but that dont have mums name and she married in 1939 and alfred was at her wedding he sined her cert

these seem to be children of the Clay & Jacobs marriage

Births Jun 1928 (>99%)
Clay Marie R Jacobs Bethnal G. 1c 186
Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
Clay Eileen A Jacobs London C.. 1c 18
Births Dec 1932 (98%)
Clay Alfred W Jacobs London C. 1c 9
Births Sep 1936 (>99%)
Clay Jean C Jacobs Shoreditch 1c 28

is there away i can find all the children born to this family

i was told her middle name was rose but that could be wrong i think i alot of my info is wrong

Amelia's birth ?

Births Jun 1906
Jacobs Amelia Annie Holborn 1b 676

This leads straight back to the family we already have on census's !!!

Dea x

Well, This whole thing is very baffling but we do have proof of one detail at least !

Marriage:
William D Clay
Spouse: Amelia A Jacobs
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1927
Registration district: Holborn
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 1153

Dea x

Michelle, unless you can actually find a birth index for any of these children, I think there's a mix up somewhere. I can't find a Roberta Jacobs/variant birth or death.

Ozi

all them children was born bethnal green

then one of amelias jacobs/clay gr gran child did tell me yes she was 100% adopted she did not know me or roses children (my nan) knew she was adopted so a bit of a blow for my family but she do not no why or how because any one who would know are all dead