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I can't find Isabella's marraige or her death I have found her daughter who is my grandma who was adopted and is named Marjorie Kaye and her name up until she was married was Marjorie Burgess

Isabella who? And where/when?
Jan

Daryl..
To be able to try and help you we will need when your gran Marjorie Burgess was born and where please.
And is that her birth name?Marjorie Burgess?

Lots of the same name everywhere any time you see...

Maybe that's the mystery in the heading ...!

You could be right Jan.

I think this needs the Cynthia touch.
Off to Pm her to do her good deed for today...

Don't know about touch, she might need a crystal ball!

Maybe one of these?? Names have a bit of a Scottish ring though, to me:

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Burgess Marjorie Burgess W. Derby 8b 829
Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
BURGESS Marjorie E Burgess Alresford 2c 340
Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
Burgess Marjorie C Burgess Manchester S. 8d 3

The only Burgess/Kaye marriage I am coming upwith is this??

Name: Kathleen E Burgess
Spouse Surname: Kaye>>Charles E
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1943
Registration district: Ipswich
Registration county (inferred): Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2063

Have just searched Trees.

I think Daryl has a Marjorie KAYE born Newton le Willows 1896.

Gwyn

I don't think we're looking for a marriage between Kaye and Burgess. I think Kaye was her maiden name, but she was adopted, so took that name (Burgess). But until we hear from Daryl it's pure guesswork.

Perhaps we need to look for Isabella KAYE in 1891....?

Gwyn

Perhaps, but maybe Kaye is her father's name?

This one maybe then Gwyn

BURGESS, Charles Head Married M 40 1861 Reeler At Paper Works
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
BURGESS, Annie Wife Married F 36 1865 Sorter At Paper Works
Earlestown
Lancashire
BURGESS, Marjorie Daughter F 6 1895
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3575 Folio:
102 Page:
28

Registration District:
Warrington Sub District:
Newton in Makerfield EnumerationDistrict:
16 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Newton in Makerfield St Peters

Civil Parish:
Newton in Makerfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
80, Mill Lane, Newton In Makerfield County:
Lancashire

Well, [pausing to polish halo] I actually sent Daryl one of my messages on 30.3. so he does know how to reply. BUT, out of the goodness of my heart (!) and because I can't bear to see FBG struggling, I have sent him a message asking him if he could pleeease return to help you out.

I mean, FBG has been made a grandma today for the 4th time...so we need to go easy on her!! lol


Anytime..Cx.

Thank you Cynthia ,and a slap to go with that as well !

I think that is the third slap this week ?

True. I am now black and blue!! Cx.

BURGESS, Charles Head Married M 50 1861 Labourer Iron Foundry Newton C Willows Lane
BURGESS, Sarah Ann Wife Married
19 years F 46 1865 Earlestwn Lanc
KAYE, Marjorie Adopted Daughter Single F 16 1895 Incandescent Mntle Works Newton C Willows Lanc

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21342 Reference:
RG14PN21342 RG78PN1270 RD443 SD3 ED1 SN240

Registration District:
Stockport Sub District:
Bredbury EnumerationDistrict:
1 Parish:
Bredbury

Address:
3 Castle Hill Bredbury Near Stockport County:
Cheshire

It would be good to get the details fom Marjories birth cert.
The address she was born at and posibly her mothers occupation to try and find Isabella Kaye on census to know when and where we should be looking !

???

Births Jun 1894
Kaye Marjorie Warrington 8c 192

Births Dec 1895
Kaye Marjorie Huddersfield 9a 267

I would like to thank all who have tried to look up Isabella Green-Kaye and Marjorie Kaye

The birth certificate details for Marjorie Kaye is born 6th may 1894 at 132 Mercer Street Newton-le-Willows to Isabella Green-Kaye no Father.

I have found most of the Burgess family and that Charles & Sarah Burgess moved to 3 Castle Hill in 1904. Marjorie didn't know she was adopted until the day she was getting married it was then that Sarah told her she was called Kaye. Even when Marjorie was dying at the age of 42 with cancer, Sarah would not tell her anything.

Expect you have this info -


Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Bowker Sarah Ann Warrington 8c 226
Burgess Charles Warrington 8c 226


and

living at 132 Mercer Street in 1901 -


GARSE, Thomas Head Married M 55 1846 Printer
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, Mary Wife Married F 51 1850
Manchester
Lancashire
GARSE, Thomas P Son Single M 27 1874 Paper Cutter Paper Mill
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, Albert Son Single M 20 1881 Shoemaker (Apprentice)
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, George Son Single M 18 1883 Compositor Printer (Apprentice)
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, Maria Daughter Single F 15 1886 Dressmaker (Apprentice)
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, Harry Son Single M 11 1890
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
GARSE, Fred Son Single M 8 1893
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
***** BOWKER, Emma Niece Single F 25 1876 Envelope Maker
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
***** BOWKER, David J Nephew Single M 17 1884 Engine Erector (Apprentice)
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire
***** BOWKER, Richard Nephew Single M 14 1887 Engine Maker Turner (Apprentice)
Newton Le Willows
Yorkshire

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3575 Folio:
79 Page:
33

Registration District:
Warrington Sub District:
Newton in Makerfield Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Newton in Makerfield St Peters

Civil Parish:
Newton in Makerfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
132, Mercer Street, Newton In Makerfield County:
Lancashire

Wakey wakey FBG........Daryl has come back to you and it's a feminine Daryl by the way!

To top it all.....looking at what has been found....I used to live in Newton-le-Willows.....small world!!


Cx.