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Serena
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18 Apr 2010 14:40 |
i am looking for elizabeth banks nee beard 1815-1881 i want to know weather her daughter elizabeth married some one called marchand they had one son in 1891 age three staying with grandfather william banks in the elms chailey who was a widow at that time , he also had a nother daughter called laura still living at home . thanks serena
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KathleenBell
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18 Apr 2010 14:48 |
This looks like the 3 year old's birth:-
Name: Victor William I Marchand Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Lambeth County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 5_9
The certificate would have his parent's full names on it.
At a guess this could be the father's birth (though you would need confirmation of this):-
Name: Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Marchand Year of Registration: 1863 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Marylebone (1837-1901) County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 438
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 14:55 |
This is request is not clearly laid out so it is very difficult if not impossible to work out what you want.
Elizabeth Beard born somewhere between 1811 and 1881
married unknown Banks
daughter Elizabeth Banks may have married unknown Marchand
Is the son unknown Marchand or Banks and son of which Elizabeth? c1888
Grandfather William Banks husband or father inlaw of Elizabeth Beard? And who does Laura belong too?
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Dea
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18 Apr 2010 14:59 |
The 'Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Marchand' Kath mentions was married to 'Elizabeth Emma' - Did your Elizabeth have the middle name Emma?
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 14:59 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: BANKS, William Address: The Elms, North Common, Chailey BANKS, William Head Widower M 62 1829 Butcher Alfriston Sussex VIEW BANKS, Laura J Daughter Single F 29 1862 Alfriston Sussex VIEW SOUTHON, Elizabeth A Niece Single F 17 1874 Alfriston Sussex VIEW MARCHAND, Elizabeth E Daughter Married F 32 1859 Alfriston Sussex VIEW MARCHAND, Victor W J Grandson M 3 1888 Lambeth Surrey VIEW COTTINGHAM, Alice Servant Single F 13 1878 General Servant Domestic Chailey Sussex
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:02 |
1881 census - Address: 1, The Elms, Chailey BANKS, William Head Married M 52 1829 Butcher 1 Master Employs 2 Men Alfriston Sussex BANKS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 65 1816 Chailey Sussex BANKS, Elizabeth E Daughter Single F 22 1859 Alfriston Sussex BANKS, Laura J Daughter Single F 19 1862 Alfriston Sussex SOUTHON, Rosabelle A Niece Single F 9 1872 Scholar Wilmington Sussex SOUTHON, Elizabeth A Niece Single F 7 1874 Scholar Wilmington Sussex PILBEAM, William T Servant Single M 21 1860 Butcher Assistant Battle Sussex
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KathleenBell
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18 Apr 2010 15:03 |
Just for reference - this is the 1891 census:-
Name: William Banks Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Alfriston, Sussex, England Civil parish: Chailey Ecclesiastical parish: Chailey St Peter Town: Chailey County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Lewes Sub-registration district: Chailey ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
William Banks 62 Laura J Banks 29, daughter Elizabeth A Southon 17, neice Elizabeth E Banks 32, daughter, married Victor W I Marchand 3, grandson Alice Cottingham 13, servant
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 796; Folio 16; Page 6; GSU roll: 6095906.
I think Serena means that Elizabeth Banks (nee Beard) is the wife of this William (he was a widow in this census).
I can't find a marriage of the daughter Elizabeth E. to a Marchand (but they may not have actually married).
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:04 |
1871 census - Address: North Common Hooks, Chailey BANKS, William Head M 42 1829 Sussex VIEW BANKS, Elizabeth Wife F 55 1816 Sussex VIEW GEORGE, Stanton Servant M 13 1858 Sussex VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Servant F 18 1853 Sussex
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:07 |
This guy was boarding in Chailey
1871 census - household transcription Person: MARCHAND, Alexander Address: National School, Chailey CROSS, Thomas Head M 53 1818 Essex VIEW CROSS, Elizabeth Wife F 49 1822 Suffolk VIEW CROSS, Elizabeth Daughter F 21 1850 Sussex VIEW MARCHAND, Alexander Boarder M 8 1863 Middlesex VIEW SYMONDSON, Warwick Boarder M 7 1864 Middlesex VIEW STREATFIELD, Martha Servant F 17 1854 Sussex
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GillianMac
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18 Apr 2010 15:08 |
Alexandre Albert V I Marchand married 1887Jun Q Lewes 2b 274 but Ancestry does not give brides name.
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18 Apr 2010 15:09 |
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Name: Claude Algernon Gibbins Marchand Record Type: Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1889 Father's Name: Alexandre Albert Victor Isidore Marchand lace wharehouseman Mother's Name: Elizabeth Emma Marchand Parish: Holy Trinity, Tulse Hill Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex
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Dea
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18 Apr 2010 15:13 |
Bingo !!!..........
BANKS Elizabeth Emma Lewes.2b 274 2 1887 BEARD Emma Esther Lewes.2b 274 2 1887 BRISTOW Henry Lewes.2b 274 2 1887 MARCHAND Alexandre Albert V Lewes.2b 274 2 1887 MARCHAND Alexandre Victor A Lewes.2b 274 2 1887 Dea x
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KathleenBell
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18 Apr 2010 15:19 |
This is Elizabeth Emma's husband at home with young son Claude and a servant in the 1891 census:-
Name: Claude A G Marchand Age: 1 6/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Alexander A V I Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Brixton County/Island: London Country: England
Street Address: 23 Deerbrook Road
Occupation: Lace Warehouseman
Condition as to marriage: married
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Norwood ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Alexander A V I Marchand 28 Clara A Marsh 36, servant - nurse Claude A G Marchand 1 6/12, son
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 417; Folio 34; Page 19; GSU roll: 6095527.
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:22 |
1911 census - household transcription Person: MARCHAND, Alexander Albert Isidore Address: 164 Willesden Lane Brondesbury MARCHAND, Alexander Albert Isidore Head Married M 48 1863 Lace Merchant Marylebone London VIEW MARCHAND, Elizabet Emma Wife Married 24 years F 52 1859 Alfriston Sussex VIEW MARCHAND, Victor William Isidore Son Single M 22 1889 Lace Trade Tulse Hill Surrey VIEW MARCHAND, Claude A Gibbons Son Single M 21 1890 Lace Trade Tulse Hill Surrey VIEW MARCHAND, Mavin D Beat Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Croydon Surrey VIEW MARSH, Clara Adora Single F 56 1855 Nurse Domestic Brixton Surrey VIEW MORGAN, Eleanor Mary Single F 20 1891 Cook Domestic Swindon Wilts VIEW GOMM, Florence Ruby Single F 16 1895 Housemaid Domestic Bradwell on Sea Essex
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Dea
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18 Apr 2010 15:24 |
This obviously connects but also confuses!!:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Victor William Isidore Banks Name: Victor William Isidore Banks Record Type: Baptism Date: 29 Apr 1888 Father's Name: Alexander Albert Victor Isidore Banks Mother's Name: Elizabeth Emma Banks Parish: Holy Trinity, Tulse Hill Borough: Lambeth County: Middlesex
Born 4th April, 1888 so after the marriage??
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GillianMac
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18 Apr 2010 15:25 |
Elizabeth Emma Banks b 1859 Eastbourne
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:50 |
Name: Alexander A V I Marchand Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Brixton County/Island: London Country: England
Employment status: View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Norwood ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alexander A V I Marchand 28 Clara A Marsh 36 Claude A G Marchand
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Dea
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18 Apr 2010 15:55 |
OOh - I just re-read to see why you were confused LadyKira but when I got back you were not confused any more !
Tee hee - It gets you like that doesn't it??
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LadyKira
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18 Apr 2010 15:57 |
Oops you wern't supposed to see that. Will have to be quicker next time.
I have been looking at various records around this guy. I wonder if he was related. Geoffry was a JP
Name: Geoffrey Isidore Charles Marchand Record Type: Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1888 Father's Name: Isidore Henri Alphonse Marchand Mother's Name: Annie Jane Marchand Parish: St Andrew, Battersea Borough: Wandsworth County: Middlesex
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Dea
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18 Apr 2010 15:59 |
Looks like a VERY possible connection to me!
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