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Williams surname has been mistranscribed,
Marriage.
William GOADEY.
Catherine Tommony.
1878 Oct/Dec Preston.
Vol-8c-Page 829,

1861 census - household transcription
Person: GOODY, William
Address: Magdalen Street, St Giles, Colchester
GOODY, William Head Married M 21 1840 Labourer
Melinddol
Suffolk VIEW
GOODY, Hannah Wife Married F 19 1842 Tailoress
Sudbury
Suffolk VIEW
GOODY, William Son Unmarried M 2 1859
Colchester
Essex VIEW
GOODY, Mary L Daughter Unmarried F 0 (2M) 1861
Colchester
Essex

This looks Like our Hannah.

The reason I am going back this far is that often cousins are given the same names I E named after father/ grandfather. Sometimes stepchildren take on the names of stepfather and sometimes especially in lancashire People are given two names but are known by the middle name. So worth investigating around the problem since the answer is not immediately apparent,

Thanks LK.
Yes it's a complicated family.
William's mother Hannah bigamously married Thomas Cronnel under her maiden name of Fisher !
The first 2 daughters Annie and Kate Cronnell were actually born Goody.
I have most of the info on both of her families but am grateful for the censuses.

The burning questions are (1) - why William (born 1859) should appear on the 1911 census when I already have his death cert for Nov 1910. and (2) why his daughter Catherine has named Richard Goody as her father on her wedding cert of 1922.
You have my sympathies re: osteopath. My appointment is Wed !

Dea - Unfortunately the marriage cert for William and wife Catherine is hand written. not a photocopy so I can't compare the signatures.

Baptisms: 20 Jun 1897 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Lily Goody - Child of Arthur Goody & Elizabeth
Abode: Aberdeen St
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: T. Pearson
Register: Baptisms 1889 - 1900, Page 197, Entry 96
Source: LDS Film 1278777

Baptisms: 25 Dec 1898 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Margaret Alice Goody - Child of Arthur Goody & Elizabeth
Abode: Aberdeen St
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: W. E. W. Carr
Register: Baptisms 1889 - 1900, Page 233, Entry 232
Source: LDS Film 1278777

ok that is why I cannot find the marriage.

Baptisms: 19 Feb 1896 St Peter, Preston, Lancashire, England
Emma Jane Goody - Child of Arthur Goody & Elizabeth
Abode: 37 Gordon St.
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: W H Green
Register: Baptisms 1893 - 1900, Page 35, Entry 279
Source: LDS Film 1471022



Baptisms: 21 Feb 1900 St Luke, Preston, Lancashire, England
John Goody - Child of Arthur Goody & Elizabeth
Abode: 30 Aberdeen St.
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: W Home Curate
Register: Baptisms 1898 - 1900, Page 35, Entry 277
Source: LDS Film 1471020

Kay - Well done !
Yep, it took me years to find that mistranscribed wedding....pre internet days !

I think this is one of yours.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CRONNEL, James
Address: 31 Young St Preston
GARDNER, Sarah Ann Head Widow F 48 1863 House Keeper Preston Lancs VIEW
CRONNEL, Sarah Jane Daughter Married
2 years F 26 1885 Cotton Weaver Preston Lancs VIEW
CRONNEL, James Son In Law Married M 25 1886 Preston Lancs VIEW
GARDNER, James Son Single M 22 1889 Labourer Preston Lancs VIEW
GARDNER, Thomas Son Single M 13 1898 Rope Winder Preston Lancs VIEW
BILLSBOROUGH, Mary Ann Boarder Single F 26 1885 Cotton Weaver Preston Lancs VIEW
BILLSBOROUGH, John Richard Boarder M 5 1906 At School Preston Lancs

Hannah Goody / Cronnell (nee Fisher) had 9 children to William Goody and 4 more to Thomas Cronnell.
It will drive you crazy following them all, trust me !

Banns: St Peter, Preston, Lancashire, England
Wm Goodier - 19 of 10 Carlisle St, St Paul's Parish
Catherine Tommony - 18 of 18 Friday St
Banns Read: 24 Nov 1878, 2nd: 1 Dec 1878, 3rd: 8 Dec 1878
Notes: Banns request signed by Groom
Register: Banns 1864 - 1886, Page 107, Entry 214
Source: LDS Film 1471022 Items 9 & 11

Yes that's the William GOODY who apparantly came back from the dead!

Just can't get my head round it.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1895
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GOODY Arthur POTTS Elizabeth Preston, St Peter Preston 250/2/303


In WA (Oz) by the Eyre Hwy, there's a memorial (it's a road grader) to John Eyre - he and his guide Wylie were the first guys to cross the Nullarbor Plain.
I didn't note down the inscription, but it says he survived thirst, starvation, desertion and even death - so your William wasn't the only one.

Thanks for that mgnv. Like it.

and thanks to Kay who seems to have found another marriage for Catherine Goodey, a year later than the one I have.

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1923
GOODEY Catherine - DOYLE James - Preston Register

Fingers crossed this one has William as the father.

Still wont explain the 1910 death cert for him as he appears to be alive and well on 1911..:))

But fingers crossed about the marriage cert having William as father on it....

FBG, I took the copy of the 1911 census page you emailed me to Preston's registry office along with William's death certificate. The lady there kindly looked up the original Marriage cert (of which I have a copy but it's not a photocopy) and although not allowed to show it to me, she confirmed that William's signature is NOT the same on the 1911 document as on his marriage cert. In fact, she said it was his wife Catherine's handwriting.
I asked why she would lie on the census and was told that it's not uncommon, as most of the time people just didn't understand the questions, or in some cases would get neighbours to complete the sheet for them.. which could also account fo the number of children being wrong. A neighbour could just write down how many were still at home, not knowing how many had already left.

I think I have to agree with her as it seems the only reasonable explanation...
So that has cleared that up.


And she could have shown you the original marriage cert,I have seen at least one when the local reg said she wasnt sure on something and we confered on it with my reasearch before she wrote it out.
I also have a photocopy that she did of it there and then for me,but it really was an awful one to read from 1852.
Maybe they arent supposed to though?

Cant see why not when you have paid for it already ....

I don't see how come the local office have the original marr cert in this case:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GOODEY William TOMMONY Catherine Preston, St Paul Preston 247/1/225

Here they got married in a C of E church, so I would guess the original m.cert was in Lancs Record Office (i.e., Preston).


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GOODEY George Henry SLATER Elizabeth Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/126/15


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GOODY Catherine St Peters Preston SLATER ST.P/73/99

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GOODY James East Preston Preston SLATER EP/7/92

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GOODY Mary Elizabeth North Preston Preston SLATER NP/17/20


My ggg gran's death was rego'ed as Christina Anderson MS Scott by her son, Alex, whom she'd been living with. This caused quite a bit of bother, since her name was Elizabeth, and I didn't know of Alex - the first few kids were not baptized, and he'd left home before 1841. His d.cert confirmed his mum was Elizabeth, and she's named as Elizabeth on her gravestone (with "Christina"'s dod) in Turriff kirkyard, buried with Alex and his wife and kids. I put it down to a brainfreeze on Alex's part when regoing the death.
Probably the same thing happened on Cathy's wedding day.

One wonders if Arthur will run out of kids before Preston runs out of chuches!

Not to be confused with the Lancashire Records Office in Preston, we also have a Certificate Office based here where you can get certs that were registered in Lancashire up to 1974. This is where I had the signatures checked.
Whether they hold the actual or are able to view them via computer I don't know.
It's also the place where they transcribe the Lancashirebmd.
They are at present looking for another marriage for Catherine Goody.. .one with William named as father.
Will let you know !

Lancs Register Office would probably have Catherine's signature on some/all of the birth regos for her kids.

Thanks to Kay for finding correct entry.
Finally received marriage cert 1923 for Catherine Goodey which names William as deceased father.

I also have a death certificate for Josephine who Catherine adopted.
She turns out to be her granddaughter Mary Josephine Heaps, Elizabeth Goody's daughter.

........many thanks to all who took an interest to try to fathom it all out.