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So why say they had only 6 children on 1911 and 1 died?

If as you say William died in 1910 why is he on it?

I really dont know.

But I have not found a Richard Goody/ey for Catherine jnrs father either.

Yes William Senior was born Colchester.
1861 and 1871 I have him with parents in Colchester.
1881 - No trace of him or his wife Catherine

They married 1878 in Preston
Their first child died

This is from Lancashirebmd

All with Mother MN : Tommony
GOODY / GOODEY
1879 – William (died 1883)
1881 – George Henry
1883 – James
1885 – Mary Jane
1887 – Elizabeth
1889 - Charles
1891 – William
1893 – Arthur
1895 – John
1896 – Hannah
1902 - Catherine

My grandmother (Hannah in the above list) told me that her mother Catherine also took in an orphan but her name was Josephine not Catherine.

This would appear to be that Charles Goody on 1901 aged 12,but I cant find him on 1891.
He has WW1 records on Ancestry though and was married by then.

Births Mar 1889
GOODEY Charles Preston 8e 631

No use then...

Death informant was Williams son then.

Name: George H Goody
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Katie.

But on 1911 it says that C/Katherine and William have been married 21 yrs,which has been added by the enumerator as it is in Red,so that is wrong as they married 10 yrs earlier.

The other thing on that 1911 is that they say they have had 6 chidren and one died.

My maths are not brilliant but...

From 1891
George H Goody 10
James Goody 8
Mary J Goody 6
Elizabeth Goody 4

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1901,.

Charles Goody 12
William 10
Arthur 8
John 6
Hannah 5

Plus Catherine 1903(who would be the 1902 birth I think) who is on 1911 makes 10 !

I do not think they are all this William and Catherines.

Where did the Charles aged 12 come from on 1901 for a start as he was not on 1891 !!

More thinking...

Also on 1901 William 1860 suddenly says he was born Colchester Essex?

Sorry, crossed purposes ...
Young Catherine's wedding cert. Witnessess : William Henry McCann and Ellen McCann

No,the marriage ....

witnesses on death cert?
It says - informant G.H. Goody, Son, Present at death,
46 Allan St. Preston.
William died 8.Nov.1910 at 54 Allan St.

Next question...
Are the witnesses Goodeys?

Only births I can see for that Catherine

Births Jun 1903
GOODY Catherine Preston 8e 605

Births Dec 1902
GOODEY Catherine Preston 8e 555

Hello FBG
Wife : Catherine - sometimes Katy (nee Tommony).
This has blown my mind !

What was his wifes name Michael?

And then Im going to think on this.

What benefit would there be in putting William's name on 1911 census if he already died in Nov 1910?

Did they possibly start taking the census early ?
It's definately his death cert I have, right address, age and everything,

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Hang on a minute ..... rewind....
I have William's death certificate - Nov 1910 (It was his wife who died in 1930 , my mistake.)
How does that compute with him being on the 1911 census ??
Something's not right here.

Either that or the bride didn't know her own father's name !!
If you can't trust what it says on a certificate...... !
Thanks for the research all of you.
I'll see if I can find out who lived at number 52 in 1922 on the electoral roll.
Thanks again.

Which is what William at number 54 has down on 1911 for his occupation.

Maybe the vicar/registrar was having a bad day or needed to use his ear trumpet?

William is my Gt Grandfather.
Catherine Goody is my Grandmother's sister.
I didn't just pluck a marriage.. the age matched and I could find no other marriage for Catherine Goody. I ordered it to see who she married.
Richard's occupation is down as General Labourer (same as William has on his death cert.

Do you have Richard's occupation? Just on the off-chance he can be located/eliminated 1911!
jan

William and Catherine at 54

Duckworth family at 52

Yes, that's what I have. No idea why it says Father Richard on certificate.
Does the entry for William and Catherine's House have 52 Allan St ? That's what's on the marriage cert for bride Catherine aged 18 in 1922.

Michael

Found these two one with father William, posting both it might give you the info.
Both records are on same st.

GOODEY, William Head Married M 50 1861 General Labourer Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, Katherine Wife Married
21 years F 48 1863 House Keeper Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, William Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Iron Founders Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, Arthur Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer Saw Mill Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, John Son Single M 16 1895 Labourer Iron Founders Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, Hannah Daughter Single F 15 1896 Weaver Cotton Mill Preston Lancashire VIEW
GOODEY, Catherine Daughter F 8 1903 School Preston Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25274 Reference:
RG14PN25274 RG78PN1447 RD476 SD3 ED1 SN196

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
North Preston EnumerationDistrict:
1 Parish:
Preston

Address:
54 Allan St Preston County:
Lancashire



GOODY, George Henry Head Married M 29 1882 Labourer In Sawmill Lancs Preston VIEW
GOODY, Elizabeth Wife Married
9 years F 28 1883 Cardroom Hand In Lancs Preston VIEW
GOODY, Catherine Daughter F 7 1904 Lancs Preston VIEW
GOODY, James Son M 4 1907 Lancs Preston VIEW
GOODY, Mary Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1910 Lancs Preston VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
25274 Reference:
RG14PN25274 RG78PN1447 RD476 SD3 ED1 SN189

Registration District:
Preston Sub District:
North Preston EnumerationDistrict:
1 Parish:
Preston

Address:
46 Allan St Preston County:
Lancashire

George

None I can find with father Richard.

2 catherine Goody/eys in Preston
Both in Allan st

No fathers called Richard.
One william and one George Henry.

What is Richards occupation?