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Hi Back again,
I have been using the "Find my Past" census :-

1861 George -Father, Stephen b1852 age 20
1871 At Hussey's farm , Stephen b 1852 age 19
1881 Station Row Rainham, b 1852 age29
1891 Station Row Rainham b 1842 age 49

the 1891 census the birth date is incorrect as the address is the same and Florences birth dates match 1881 & 1891. So I think Stephen was just having a brain storm.

Do you have Ancestary,? if so could you look for Stephen's death. I have let Ancestary lapse and won't renew untill after the summer.

In the 1841 census the family is living in Romsey which is about 40 miles away from Long Sutton.I am not sure that this is them,but I can't find anyone else.

Thanks your help
Anne

My you have been busy in my absence

the family is definately the Medway family.
Anne

Thanks for the death date. he died young!!
Anne

Most did back then!

Heres the marriage of Stephens parents. Im sure Ive come accross Knight and Pointer together somewhere

Marriages Dec 1838 (>99%)
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KNIGHT Jane Farnham 4 119
POINTER George Farnham 4 119

Fancy that, mistranscribed! Pretty sure it says Poynter on the census


1841 England Census
about Jane Pynter
Name: Jane Pynter
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Odiham
Hundred: Odiham (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Odiham and Crondall
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Pynter 25 <<<<<<<Ag labourer
Jane Pynter 25
Charles Pynter 1
Charles Pynter 18

Congratulations.. that was a good bit of detection. Two Charles, I wonder if he was just visiting!. Mind you I wouldn't have wanted to transcribe that ledger!
Thanks all your help. I would never have got through it alone

Anne

Hi
I am now looking for the birth and death of George Pointer ( Pynter, Poynter) He married Jane Knight in dec qtr 1838 in Farnham. In the 1841 census he was born 1816 in Hampshire. In the 1851 he was born 1819 at Long Sutton Hampshire.

Thanks Anne

Have managed to find the death of George Poynter. The reg is March qtr 1880 at Milton Kent, but still can't find his birth.

Now looking for his children

Charles Pointer -1851 census - age 11 b 1840 Long Sutton
died Reg as Charles Poynter Sept qtr 1860 at Farnborough
Can't find his birth

James Pointer -1851 census -age b 1843 Long Sutton
Can't find birth, marriage or death

Henry Pointer reg March qtr 1846 Henry Poynter At Farnham.
Can't find his marriage or death.
Still searching for the others
Anne

Hi Again

Still trying to sort out this family

According to the 1891 Census Annie want to live with Henry and Hannah Pointer (Aunt and Uncle) . This seems OK for Annie but I am not sure about her Uncle.

Pointer Henry Married 45 born 1846. All OK but in Fordham Essex , which is a long was from Long Sutton Hampshire as stated in the 1851 census .

BMD Poynter Henry b march qtr 1846 Farnham 4 149

Farnham is in Hampshire and was the registration district at that time after it changed from Farnborough.

Are they two different Uncle Henry or do I need to find another Annie?

Anne

You wont find a birth registration for George as it was before civil registration began

A baptism might be found but I doubt you'd get this online

As for James, this looks promising


Births Jun 1842 (>99%)
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Poynter James Farnham 4 126

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or

Births Dec 1844 (>99%)
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POINTER James Whitchurch H 7 224


Do you have certificates for the info you are gathering, as you cant be sure unless you do

x

Name: James Poynter 99%)
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LOVELL Emma Jennett Southampton 2c 78
PAINTER James Southampton 2c 78

I wouldnt be suprised if this is your James marriage. Again you'd need the certificate to confirm

x

Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
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POYNTER William George Reigate 2a 167


Looks like the child from the 1871 census with mom Emma and father James. George as the middle name after his grandfather?

x

Hi Ginny

Thanks that is helpful, I am hoping to make a visit to Winchester sometime. I think they have some of the records.

I'm particularly worried about Henry. I don't think the two match up. The family were all land workers and in 1861 he was working on Manor Farm Well Long Sutton I can't find him on any census until he pops up in 1891 as a bricklayer born in Essex

However Annie seems right. She was born in 1880 in Rainham Kent after the family moved there about 1878.
Anne

There are Pointers( Poynters) in Reigate and Thanet, but I don't think they fit.into the puzzle, as most of mine stayed in Hampshire around Long Sutton until the whole family moved to Milton (Rainham) where they stayed.

Anne

I edited to add his occ and it trashed the lot as you can see. Here it is again

1871 England Census
about James Poynter
Name: James Poynter
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma L
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Sutton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Headley
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Reigate
Sub-registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
James Poynter 28 <<Gardener
Emma L Poynter 26
William G Poynter 1 month
Mary A Holter 13 <<Sister inlaw ...hmm

That's fantastic.. I think you have done it .. you have found the connection to Reigate. I should have gone back over these, but at the time I was tying to find out what happened to my Gt Aunts. Now I am writing the descendants from George and therefore finding holes that I am trying to plug.
Anne

Hi Ginny.. Problem!! there is a death of James Painter June qtr 1860 2a 6?
farnborough. But I like yours better.!!
Anne

The death of James Painter doesnt look to be the same James 'Painter' Poynter that married Emma as they are on the 71 census!

I wonder if this is Henry


1871 England Census
about Henry Pointer
Name: Henry Pointer
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Gender: Male
Where born: Odiham, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 50th Queens Own Regiment of Infantry
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Murtagh 34
Margaret Murtagh 30
Thomas F Murtagh 12
Catherine Murtagh 10
Helen Murtagh 8
Eliza Murtagh 1
Anne Mahoney 26
Catherine Mahoney 3
John Mahoney 1
Henry Neal 24
George Newton 19
John Norris 19
George Northcott 19
William Notley 33
Thomas Nugent 35
John Oakhill 18
Daniel Oconnell 37
John Oneill 36
Henry Oneill 18
Edward Over 25
Alfred Packer 20
William Paine 31
Elizabeth Paine 25
Mary E Paine 3
John W E Paine 1
Thomas Paltridge 17
William Parkinson 19
Philip Parkinson 28
George Peachey 21
William Peacock 27
William Pearson 35
John Phillips 28
Joseph Phillips 26
William H Phillips 24
Thomas Phillips 25
Thomas Pillman 23
Uriah Pinegar 29
Isaac Pinker 33
Norah Pinker 24
John Pirker 2
James P Pirker 9 months
William Pimm 34
Henry Pointer 25
William Pope 24
John Powe 18
Charles Preston 18
Henry Pricer 24
William Prior 21
William Petchey 18
Alfred Pryke 31
James Pullen 19
John Rake 19
William Ralph 23
James Raw 39
Patrick Raw 35
John Redgway 24
James Redmond 35
George Rice 20
Richard W Richards 22
Tom S Richardson 20
James Riley 21
William Riley 24
James Kiordan 34
Alfred Robins 17
Charles Robinson 33
J?? Robinson 39
George Rose 19
James Rourke 21
Edward Rowbottom 33
Edward Ruse 19
James Ryan 15
John Ryan 42
William Ryan 19
Patrick Ryan 37
Charles Sage 32
Henry Savin 37
James Sayers 27
Abraham Schram 20
George Selby 23
Larry Setchell 31
Joseph Sewill 28
Edwin Shaddock 19
Charles Shallard 19
Joseph Shanahon 22
Robert Shaw 37
John Sheldon 24
Henry Sheppard 17
William Shether 34
George Shilson 19
William Shirley 19
George Shute 21
Thomas Shute 19
George Silligs 25
Robert Simonds 29
James Simpson 31
Charles Singer 20
Richard Skeels 32
Matilda Skeels 30
Edward J Skeels 2
Mary Ann Skeels 9 months


Ann, do you have certificates to verify all this info?

Hi

Yes I like this, in fact I had wondered if he had joined up and was starting to trawl though the national archives service records.

I had not bought certs for this family firstly as I expected them to be difficult and secondly is that they are so expensive now. I wanted to be as sure as I could be as I have some of the info in the Family Bible. It now looks as if I will have too.
Anne

Hi Anne I noticed you had a Alice in your fam. my gr gr gr grandmother was Alice Rowell born c.1815 & married a James Edgar Holliady they had 2 dau's Jane Ann & Isabella Edgar Holliday, do you have any links, Alice's mother was called Isabella & her father was Jacob. Joan