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Lesley
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1 Mar 2010 23:03 |
Can anyone help me to trace the family of Ernest Middleton who was born in or around the Lincoln area approx 1889. I believe he came from a large family. He married Florence Walker in February 1911. They moved to Liverpool. Any help would be appreciated as I have come to a complete stop on this branch of the family. Thanks in advance for any help.
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FannyByGaslight
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1 Mar 2010 23:08 |
His marriage cert will give you his fathers name and occupation (hopefully if he knew it)to be able to trace him with family..
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Madmeg
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1 Mar 2010 23:09 |
I have looked for Ernest on the 1911 census to no avail. If you know he was married in February 1911, you presumably have his marriage certificate. So can you tell us his father, and his age at marriage? Any witnessses to the marriage.
What makes you think he moved to Liverpool? When do you think he moved there?
Are you looking to trace his ancestors or his descendants?
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brummiejan
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1 Mar 2010 23:09 |
Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
Middleton Ernest Lincoln 7a 694 Walker Florence Lincoln 7a 694
This will give his father's name and occupation and might help with your search.
Jan
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 12:12 |
Lesley has pmd me to say the father was William Middleton, Labourer. Witnesses were John William Codling and Elsie Codling. They were living at 66 King Street, Lincoln.
There is still no sign of the couple in 1911. The original 1911 site has only one Ernest Middleton living with a Florence, which is in Cheltenham, but he is unmarried and she is his 10-year old sister.
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 12:25 |
I've done an address search for 66 King Street, Lincoln in 1911 - not the Middletons or Codlings. I'm not able to find Ernest in 1901 or earlier either.
The church they were married at was St Peter of Gowls - anybody know where that might be?
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 12:29 |
This is the best I can do:
CODLING, John William Head Married M 40 1871 Engine Fitter Lincoln VIEW CODLING, John Elizabeth Wife Married 18 years F 38 1873 Lincoln VIEW CODLING, Elsie Daughter F 14 1897 Lincoln VIEW GOLDING, William Boarder Single M 26 1885 Engine Fitter Lamberhurst Kent VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 19732 Reference: RG14PN19732 RG78PN1182 RD418 SD2 ED13 SN139 Registration District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln Home EnumerationDistrict: 13 Parish: Lincoln Address: 52 Thesiger Street Lincoln County: Lincolnshire
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FannyByGaslight
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3 Mar 2010 12:32 |
How old were Florence and Ernest on the marriage cert?
When and where was the first child born?
Lesley.. To reply on here please use either the Add button on your post message OR the purple REPLY button at the top of the post beside "bookmark this".
And thank you for your thank you.
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MaureeninNY
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3 Mar 2010 12:37 |
Bingo!! 1911 census transcription details for: 60 King St Lincoln: RG14PN19737 RG78PN1182 RD418 SD2 ED18 SN206 Reg. District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln Home Parish: Lincoln Enum. District: 18 Address: 60 King St Lincoln: County: Lincolnshire WALKER, Alfred Head Married M 60 1851 Miller Laneham Notts WALKER, George Son Single M 35 1876 Engineers Machinest Lincoln WALKER, Lucy Daughter Single F 32 1879 Lincoln CHAFMAN, Albert Boarder Single M 36 1875 Engineers Fitter Gainstow MIDDLETON, F Boarder Married F 24 1887 Lincoln
MIDDLETON, E Boarder Married M 22 1889 Boiler Rivetter Hull
Maureen
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FannyByGaslight
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3 Mar 2010 12:56 |
You clever Maureen ,well done,good hunting..AGAIN.. Here comes the glow of ,,Tarah deh rah>>>I FOUND EM !
I have the wet fish ready for about an hours time>>;))
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FannyByGaslight
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3 Mar 2010 13:05 |
1891?
Civil Parish: Sculcoates Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull Address: 53, Barmston Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull
MIDDLETON, William Head Married M 45 1846 Dock Side Labourer Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Ellen Wife Married F 39 1852 Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Fredrick Wm Son Single M 20 1871 Cotton Spinner Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Walter Son M 17 1874 Cotton Spinner Sutton upon Trent Nottinghamshire MIDDLETON, Harry Son M 9 1882 Scholar Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Lizzy Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Ernest Son M 2 1889 Hull Yorkshire
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MaureeninNY
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3 Mar 2010 13:11 |
Yuck,Viv. I'm still on my first cup of coffee here. Don't you dare come near me with that smelly fish.
I can't seem to find them/him on the 1901,though.
Maureen
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FannyByGaslight
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3 Mar 2010 13:24 |
Walter in 1901
Address: 8, Gibson Street Florence Place, Sculcoates
COOPER, Henry Head Married M 65 1836 Shoemaker Hull Yorkshire COOPER, Mary A Wife Married F 63 1838 Hull Yorkshire COOPER, Joseph J Son Single M 38 1863 Dockside Laborer Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Edith Daughter Married F 21 1880 Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Edith Grand Daughter F 1 1900 Lincoln Lincolnshire MIDDLETON, Walter Son-In-Law Married M 26 1875 Laborer In Iron Fdry Sutton on Trent *****************************************
Frederick.
Address: 341, Wincolmlee, Sculcoates
MIDDLETON, Frederick W Head Married M 30 1871 General Labourer Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1875 Hull Yorkshire MIDDLETON, Charles F Son M 2 1899 Hull Yorkshire
The rest of them defeat me.
You getting anywhere MadMeg??
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 14:08 |
Sorry, had to go visit the bank manager - will take a look now. Or shall I go back to the bank manager?
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FannyByGaslight
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3 Mar 2010 14:17 |
Bank manager only if he is giving money,not asking for it !
Get searchng woman,we have been,your turn now ...;)
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 14:18 |
1901 England Census about William S Middleton Name: William S Middleton Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Hull Civil parish: Clee Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: [Grimsby] County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Grimsby Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age William S Middleton 57 Wid Edith Foster 30 Servant But he's now a painter and decorator.
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MIDDLETON, William Inmate Married M 67 1844 Formerly A General Labourer Yorks Hull VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 19762 Reference: RG14PN19762 RD418 SD2 ED43 SN9999 Registration District: Lincoln Sub District: Lincoln Home EnumerationDistrict: 43 Parish: Lincoln Address: Lincoln It's the district Union Workhouse.
The 1901 William above doesn't seem right.
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 15:04 |
Might this be Ellen and Lizzy?
1901 England Census about Elizabeth Middleton Name: Elizabeth Middleton Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eleanor Gender: Female Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: South East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age Eleanor Middleton 48 Wife Married, born Sutton Bridge Norfolk. Elizabeth Middleton 16 Walter Silvers 40 Musician, Boarder. Maude Silvers 12 Walter Silvers 10 52 Devon Street, Leeds.
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Madmeg
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3 Mar 2010 15:12 |
This could be Harry:
1901 England Census about Henry Middleton Name: Henry Middleton Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Sculcoates Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Kingston Upon Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Drypool ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 190 Household Members: Name Age George Courtney 40 Emma Courtney 39 Rhoda Courtney 20 Alice Courtney 18 George W Courtney 15 Maria Courtney 11 Jane A Courtney 9 Emma A Courtney 4 Henry Middleton 16 Boarder, Gen Lab Where might Ernest be?
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MaureeninNY
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3 Mar 2010 15:13 |
That's where I was headed too! Marriages Mar 1871 Middleton William Hull 9d 319 Thompson Eleanor Hull 9d 319
1881 Ancestry Name: Eleanor Middleton Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Wm. Gender: Female Where born: Sutton Bridge, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Southcoates County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 3 Mill Yard Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Sculcoates Sub-registration district: Drypool ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household Members: Name Age Wm. Middleton 36 Eleanor Middleton 29 Fredk. Wm. Middleton 10 Walter Middleton 7 Jas. Middleton 5 Joseph Middleton 3 Edith Middleton 1 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4754; Folio: 74; Page: 33 ...... 1901 census transcription details for: 52, Devon Street, Leeds RG number: RG13 Piece: 4217 Folio: 108 Page: 39 Reg. District: Leeds Sub District: South East Leeds Parish: Leeds Enum. District: 25 Ecclesiastical District: All Saints City/Municipal Borough: Address: 52, Devon Street, Leeds County: Yorkshire (West riding) MIDDLETON, Eleanor Wife Married F 48 1853 Sutton Bridge Norfolk MIDDLETON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1885 Eating House Waitress Hull Yorkshire SILVERS, Walter Boarder Single M 40 1861 Musician Southampton Hampshire SILVERS, Maude Boarder F 12 1889 Nottingham Nottinghamshire SILVERS, Walter Boarder M 10 1891 Ipswich Suffolk
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3 Mar 2010 15:16 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about William Middleton Name: William Middleton Year of Registration: 1871 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Hull (1854 Onw) County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside Volume: 9d Page: 319 (click to see others on page) Bride Eleanor Thompson.
I see we are on the same trail!!! Does no harm to confirm.
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