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Alfred Birch (born circa 1870s - 1880s)

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WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Mar 2010 17:16

I have mailed you 6 marriage certs, the ones i have listed in this thread.


Tracey x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 4 Mar 2010 22:46

Click on my name , the pm system kicks in.... fill in the gaps and hit send!

T xx

Silverbirch

Silverbirch Report 4 Mar 2010 12:30

Hi Tracey

Sure but how do I do that? (Sorry, you can tell I'm new!)

:-)

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 3 Mar 2010 16:45

Hey you!

Sorry been busy working.... can you pm me your email address?

Tracey x

Silverbirch

Silverbirch Report 2 Mar 2010 12:57

Thanks Tracey, will wait to hear from you!

Hi MadMeg, thanks for the offer. I may well get back to you!

Regards

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 2 Mar 2010 00:21

I must've missed this thread along the way. Can't possibly absorb it all at the mo. But if anyone wants anything looking up, let me know.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 2 Mar 2010 00:09

Hi Silverbirch i believe i have already grabbed the cetr off Ancestry.... lemme go and look and get back to you.... it'll save you some pennies!

t x

Silverbirch

Silverbirch Report 1 Mar 2010 22:14

Thanks RR. Which board do I use to ask for a look-up? Are people happy to do it as I don't want to ask for too much!!

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Mar 2010 22:01

This one I think

HOUSEHOLD BIRCH ALFRED EDWARD M 1906 5 Fulham London , I think with Rose and mary Ann

was also looking at
HOUSEHOLD BIRCH ALFRED M 1869 42 Fulham London

before you use your credits I would ask on board for a look up I think, if someone already has a sub it will narrow it down and you can use yours for image?

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Mar 2010 21:53

Hi Silverbirch, I am not too well up on the best way to search 1911 and can't remember now how i did it! I don't seem to be getting what I had before? will try and replicate it,

Silverbirch

Silverbirch Report 1 Mar 2010 21:38

Hi all, thanks again for your efforts. You've given me a lot of leads even if we didn't find Alfred. If you're here, could I prevail on your good natures (and research expertise) to ask a couple more questions pls?
Rambling Rose: you mentioned on one of the posts "I have got a Rose and Albert born West Ham to same mmn" in 1911 census. I've bought some credits so how do I do a search with all the search criteria: Birch, Rose, Albert and West Ham? Also on another post you mention that you have an Alfred and Mary Birch with a daughter Rose so same question applies(pls excuse my ignorance but I've only bought a few credits and want to use them efficiently!).
Tracey: I'm reviewing the Chesneys again and am getting a bit confused with the marriages. If I order a marr. cert. for the Joseph Chesney/Eliz Russell marriage will it have more info than on line - in particular the ages? According to my calculations, Joseph should be around 55 (since he died 7 yrs later aged 62) and Eliz somewhere in her 40s (having been married 20 yrs before, widowed but still able to bear two more children). Also it states that he was a printer but on Eliz Letitia's marriage it says father carpenter (and so I'm not sure they are the same Joseph Chesney esp as it also says his name is Benjamin Joseph not Joseph Benjamin.) I know they often transposed things etc but I want to be sure they are the same person! So do you think the marr. certs. would help here?Thanks a million again. Regards

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Mar 2010 10:32

I have looked on Ancestry Members trees and can find nothing for Rose, Helen Albert or Alfred with father Alfred. Nothing on census either for an Alfred with children of those names.

How frustrating........................................

Silverbirch

Silverbirch Report 28 Feb 2010 21:35

Hi all

I'm back on line and have read through all the posts you've kindly made today. Amazing progress on the Chesneys - thanks for that! Don't think we've found the right Alfred yet though, which is really frustrating after all your hard work. Yes, I was definitely told that he grew up and had (at least) 4 children - Alfred, Helen (or Nellie), Albert and Rose. I'm sure he would've been born in either Islington or West Ham. I think they moved to West Ham in the early 1870s as, apart from William Benjamin (born 1870, died 1872) in Islington, all the later children were born in West Ham.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 28 Feb 2010 17:57

Ok sorry been cooking dinner...

Do you need me to look up anything?


Tracey x

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2010 16:34

The parent of William Andrew that Mel has found in 1851/1861 are living in Islington in 1871

1871 England Census
about John Birch
Name: John Birch
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Wrexham, Wales
Civil parish: Islington St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Household schedule number: 540
Household Members: Name Age
John Birch 67
Mary Birch 64

Edit William Andrew and Eliz' Letitia are on the next image ! (image 90 and 91)


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 28 Feb 2010 14:41

I don't think Alfred was in the family we are looking up unless it was a second name or a name of a brothers child.

If there was an Alfred why can't we find him with his parents on any census unless he died!!!! and Silverbirch says he had four children so the family thinks.

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2010 14:40

the Alfred and Mary ann below seem to be in Fulham in 1911 with daughter Rose, can someone please check?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2010 14:02

another possible, for someone to eliminate maybe?

Marriages Dec 1889 (>99%)

BIRCH Alfred Fulham 1a 477
Moyhing Mary Ann Fulham 1a 477

which might be connected with this...but we really need someone with 1911 census I think

1901 England Census
about Alfred Birch
Name: Alfred Birch
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hammersmith, London, England

Civil parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch West Kensington Park and St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Hammersmith (including Starch Green)
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 287
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Birch 33
Mary Ann Birch 29
Alfred Birch 6
George Smith 15




Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2010 13:37

what about this? EDIT NO it's not him, have found these in 1881 but will leave up to eliminate him. I am looking for Alfred in 1901 on the off chance I find him lol.

1901 England Census
about Alfred Birch
Name: Alfred Birch
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 426
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Birch 61 widow
Alfred Birch 31 son
Frederick Birch 25 son
Bessie Birch 24 DIL
Frederick Birch 3
Albert Adams 43
Emma Adams 38
Stella Adams 4
Douglas Adams 2
Caroline Crapnell 30


Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2010 13:02

Hello Mel, we're back lol I went to bed and woke up thinking about this thread!

the baptism you have there is

Name: Alfred Charles Quested Birch
Record Type: Baptism

Name: Alfred Charles Quested Birch
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Jul 1899
Father's Name: Alfred Charles Birch
Mother's Name: Emma Eliza Birch
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex


add, think this may be his father going on the Q which is unusual so not the one born 1869

Births Mar 1876 (>99%)
BIRCH Alfred Charles Q Bethnal Green 1c 266

(there are also some other births to A C Quested Birch )