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i have just found out that my mum had 5 brothers and sisters that i and she never knew about, am i going to have a impossible task to try and find out about them?

annie smith born 1894 stewkley bucks
william thomas smith 1896 upper holloway islington
dorothy mary smith 1898 willesden
charles ernest smith 1901 willesden
john edward smith 1903 willesden

all living in willesden in 1911
parents mary ann smith nee dimmock and george (purrett) smith
thanks

Hi Veronica

Can i ask how you've suddenly found this out?

Have you discovered a pervious marriage of a Grandparent? Do you have any certs for your new findings?

We can help you alot here with the 1911 census etc, but it would help to understand the circumstances surrounding this new revelation.

Tracey x

ok thanks, unsure how i order with fathers name, when ordered certs befor knew they was rather right so used the index number and they costed £7 each,

yeah i have the birth cert for these now, my mum is jenny smith the youngest , her mum mary ann died when my mum was a year old so im guessin the older ones moved out and my mum never remember them.

i have found them on 1911 census thats where i found them

Ok so this is the marriage

Marriages Mar 1894
Dimmock Mary Ann Islington 1b 451
Smith George Turrett Islington 1b 451

I saw your postem too, that is the best way of doing things!

Yeah i saw the reference to 1911, it didn't say you had the census, just they were all living in Wilesden in 1911.... one can't make assumptions you know!


Tracey x

yea i found them in 1911 census there is three other sisters there too
alice smith
nellie smith
elsie smith

these ones i know about already

Ok so you want info going forward from 1911 ?

Tracey x

just to add to the comlications, there is one more child of georges called albert with another partner,
i cant find him at all tho, things i do know is mary ann died in 1914, and george was living with an ada smith on electrol roll in 1918 but cant find a marriage or birth for albert. they was living in wedlake street kensington/paddington in 1918

yeah would like to find if them 5 i dont know about married and or had children.

1901
Name: Dorothy M Smith
Age: 2 6 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Willesden, London, England

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 49 Redfern Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 31 Leighton Buzzard Bucks 1870
Mary A Smith 31 Stewkley Bucks 1870
Annie Smith 6
William T Smith 4
Dorothy M Smith 2 6 months

what was mary ann's birth year?

T x

mary ann smith nee dimmock was born in stewkley 1870

Do you have any of their actual birth dates?

It's possible to search for their deaths with just Forenames and birthdates.

For the females this will give you their last known married name.

Could one of these be your Charles?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Charles Ernest Smith
Name: Charles Ernest Smith
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 1556

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Charles Ernest Smith
Name: Charles Ernest Smith
Birth Date: 3 Dec 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Newham
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 2184


T x

Possile for John Edward Smith?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about John Edward Smith
Name: John Edward Smith
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1903
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 1578

The death certs will give you alot more information for you to be able to do a retrospective search of their families.


Tracey x

william thomas smith 10th july 1896
annie smith 4th october 1894
charles ernest smith 16th may 1901
john edward smith 14th march 1904

Hmmm...

A possible the person reporting the death got the year wrong?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about John Edward Smith
Name: John Edward Smith
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Barrow-in-Furness
Inferred County: Cumbria
Volume: 1
Page: 0067




Tracey x

Another possible...

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Annie Frances
Name: Annie Frances
Birth Date: 4 Oct 1894
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1989
Age at death (estimated): 95
Registration district: St Albans
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 849

hi

i know i have problems with my treads, i am now goin to stick to this one after deleting a couple.

if any one could look up a baptisum for either
alice smith born 1905-07 in willesden

and lily smith born 1911-12

as i cant be certain for these on orderin there birth ceertificates i ahev the rest of there brothers and sisters.