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1901 census help please (A clue found but have to

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Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 09:40

I have looked for this lady without success in 1901. She remarried in 1904 so she should be around somewhere!

He name is Ellen Harriet LOVETT; her 1st husband's death was registered in June Q of 1901 so she may already be widowed.

She was born abt 1864 in Salisbury Wiltshire. She later married in Northampton and moved to Hampshire.

If anyone can spot her I shall be extremely grateful.

Birdi

SharoninGreece

SharoninGreece Report 26 Feb 2010 09:59

The 1901 census was taken on the night of 31 March/1 April.

What was her husbands name & where were they living then?

Sharon

Penny

Penny Report 26 Feb 2010 10:24

is LOVETT her maiden name, first married name, 2nd marriage name....or something else?

Penny

Penny Report 26 Feb 2010 10:28

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
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Body Lucy Hartley W. 2c 309
HIGGINS Ellen Harriet Hartley W. 2c 309 <<<
LOVETT Richard Rokes Hartley W. 2c 309 <<
MAY George Hartley W. 2c 309

BIRTH REG RIGHT TME RIGHT PLACE FOR HARRIET ELLEN HIGGINS

Penny

Penny Report 26 Feb 2010 10:32

Deaths Jun 1901
Love_t Richard 49 Hartley W. 2c 119

wHERE DOES NORTHAMPTON COME INTO IT?

here??

Marriages Mar 1903 (>99%)
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Andrews Annie Ellen Northampton 3b 104
Ellis Walter Northampton 3b 104
Lovett Ellen Harriet Northampton 3b 104
Lovett Ellen Harriett Northampton 3b 104
Masters John Watson Northampton 3b 104

jansmith

jansmith Report 26 Feb 2010 10:41

If thats the couple i haven't found them in 1891 for info about them?

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 10:43

Thanks Minnie and SharoninGreece

LOVETT was her married name. She married Richard Rokes LOVETT in 1886.

Richard death was registered in the JuneQ of 1901 so she may already be a widow.

I don't know where they were living just prior to Richard's death but they appear to be living separately in 1891; I think Ellen was recorded as LOVELL but I don't have the exact place to hand. Richard was living in Hampshire in 1891, Head, Married but no Ellen.

Many thanks

Birdi

Penny

Penny Report 26 Feb 2010 10:44

Me neither! childrens names would be usefull

?????

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
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Lovett Annie Emily Hartley W. 2c 207

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 10:45

for jansmith - thank you for looking; they are to be found separately in 1891. Richard Rokes Lovett (looks like Lovell) married Head in Hampshire but no Ellen.

I've misplaced the image for Ellen, she was staying with a relative. I've got it somewhere!

Birdi

jansmith

jansmith Report 26 Feb 2010 10:45

this marriage then
Name: Ellen Harriet (Harriett) Lovett
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northampton (1837-1923)

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 10:46

Hi Minnie

I don't know the names of the children from the first marriage; they will be on the image I've misplaced - sorry!

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 10:50

Yes, that is her second marriage to Walter Ellis.

jansmith

jansmith Report 26 Feb 2010 10:52

got to go ,will bookmark page for later

Penny

Penny Report 26 Feb 2010 10:54

what do you know about mr Ellis? can they be spotted on 1911 which might give clues to 1901

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 10:59

I have both Ellen and Walter Ellis in 1911. He is staying in Northampton with his parents, she is home in Aldershot with daughter Evelyn.

I have finally found the 1891 image of Ellen. She is living in Fleet Hampshire with her brother Samuel and sons Richard 4 and George 1.

I'll print a copy off so I don't lose it again.

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 11:08

Sorry Minnie! Just to clarify things. She married for the second time in Northampton to Walter Ellis.

Walter was in the army barracks in Hampshire in 1901, single.

I think he met Ellen there at some point and they came to Walter's home town to marry.

Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Feb 2010 11:33


posting 1891 census for reference -


1891 England Census
Name: Ellen Griffin
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Philip
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Crondall
Ecclesiastical parish: Fleet All Saints
Town: Fleet
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Sub-registration district: Odiham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Philip Griffin 50
Ann Griffin 56 (presumably second marriage)
Sidney Griffin 21
Charlotte Griffin 15
Samuel Griffin 20 son - (Higgins on original)
Ellen Griffin 26 -daughter - (Lovell on original)
Richard Griffin 4 (Lovell on original) - born Fleet
George Griffin 1 (Lovell on original) - born Fleet




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 953; Folio 158; Page 10; GSU roll: 6096063.





Choccy

Choccy Report 26 Feb 2010 11:34



If this is George's birth -


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: George William Lovett
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hartley Wintney
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 165



looks like he died before the 1901 census -


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: George William Lovett
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 6
District: Farnham
County: Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex
Volume: 2a
Page: 67









Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 11:36

Thanks Choccy!

Philip and Ann are not Samuel and Ellen's parents. I will have to work out who they are.

Wildgoose

Wildgoose Report 26 Feb 2010 11:37

Thanks again Choccy.

Yes, that does look like one of the sons.

I will have a look for Richard. I can't find him in 1901 either!