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IN THE VAGUE HOPE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ME.
Abandoned in Leeds at pre-school age with her younger brother (Charles Robert Clark born 1901), my maternal grandmother Violet Clark had no record of her parents. She and her brother were raised with the Furness family in the Woodhouse area of Leeds until sent to work aged 13. Violet died on 6 Feb 1979 wondering why she had been left by her parents; where did they go; why go without their children.
I believe I have searched all relevant records, and even Anthony Adolf has been unable to suggest anything further. I had hoped to solve this mystery for my own mother - any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Sue

I don't see a 1901 birth for Charles only this one

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Clark Charles Robert Scarbro' 9d 398


What year was your grandmother born please?

This seems to be the above Charles in 1901
So probably not yours as there is no Violet in the family.

Name: Charles Clark
Age: 8 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Scarborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
George Clark 50
Elizabeth Clark 43
William Clark 20
Louisa Clark 18
Charles Clark 8 months

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4529; Folio: 61; Page: 14.

have looked at Violets born 1898 leeds this is the only Clark (e) ?

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)

Clarke Violet Scott Leeds 9b 577

Births Jun 1901 (>99%)

Clarke Charles Robert Leeds 9b 529

1911 -


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HOUSEHOLD BOWER FREDERICK M 1872 39 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD BOWER SARAH ELIZEBITH F 1871 40 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE VIOLET F 1898 13 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CLARKE ROBERT M 1901 10 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD FURNESS ELIZA F 1859 52 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD FURNESS THOMAS M 1859 52 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD PEEL JOSHUA M 1872 39 Leeds Yorkshire West Riding

just in case.

1911

FURNESS, Thomas Head Married M 52 1859 Cloth Miller Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
FURNESS, Eliza Wife Married
33 years F 52 1859 Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
PEEL, Joshua Brother Single M 39 1872 Lauborer Ashplater Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, Violet Boarder Single F 13 1898 Piecener Cloth Mill Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
CLARKE, Robert Boarder Single M 10 1901 Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27012 Reference:
RG14PN27012 RG78PN1548B RD500 SD3 ED31 SN436

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
West Leeds EnumerationDistrict:
31 Parish:
Leeds

Address:
34 Ganton View Woodhouse Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

richard

For additional info, brother Charles's death?

Name: Charles Robert Clark
> Birth Date: 2 May 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: 1977
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: West Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 0365

Aha, lucky I looked, I was about to go hunting in 1911 for Furness-s living with Clark*-s, there they are. ;)

On a bit of a limb here...can't find a Violet Clarke in 1901...but as her middle name (if that's the right birth) may be Scott....considering this????

Name: Violet Scott
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Potter Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Aidan
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Chapeltown
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Bower 29
S Lizzie Bower 30
Kate Scott 25
Violet Scott 3

I would certainly get those birth certificates.

My hunch would be that Violet's parents weren't married. The surname as a middle name, Scott, is commonly an indication of that -- it would be the surname of the father. (My great-aunt, born c1890 before her mother married my gr-grfather, has her father's surname as a middle name, for instance.)

In that case the father's name would most likely not be entered on the birth certificate, but at least the mother's name would be known and you could try to trace her.

That's exactly the one I was looking at as I typed the above post, Rose!

Same hunch? ;)

Kate Scott says she's married, but.

edit - the couple they're visiting, I think:

Marriages Mar 1894
Bower Frederick Leeds 9b 693
Haley Sarah Elizabeth Leeds 9b 693

Edit + delete!

Oh Rose - I have just posted that but you beat me to it!!

Dea x

well I'd certainly risk £14 on those birth certs in the hope that they have same mother :)

just out of interest the other name on that 1911 Joshua Peel down as 'brother' might be worth looking into ? whose brother? could he be the childrens father ??

Tuts at self for not noticing immediately that the Bowers are on the 1911 lol. as posted by Choccy

I can't believe you didn't notice that Rose - that is why I was so excited !! - It obviously connects!

You are on to something here!

Dea x

lol Dea , because i am dodging between freebmd ancestry and here i only saw the second bit of 1911 ...I have changed my font size to much larger because of the GR change and have to keep scrolling :)

Does seem likely though doesn't it :)

Please excuse us having a little 'aside' here on your thread Sue but what GR change has caused you to have to do that Rose? - I haven't had that problem??

Dea x

Strange, so i thought i had better post this.

Violet clarke is also down as living with frederick & sarah bower.

BOWER, Frederick Head Married M 39 1872 Insurance Agent And Knocker Up Rodley Nr Leeds Yorks VIEW
BOWER, Sarah Elizebith Wife Married
17 years F 40 1871 Leeds Yorks VIEW
CLARKE, Violet Boarder F 13 1898 School Leeds Yorks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27104 Reference:
RG14PN27104 RG78PN1550 RD500 SD5 ED13 SN34

Registration District:
Leeds Sub District:
North East Leeds EnumerationDistrict:
13 Parish:
Leeds

Address:
72 Compton Road Leeds County:
Yorkshire (West riding)


richard

Problem is -- I don't think those Bowers *are* in the Furness household in 1911.

Artbeat posted the 1911 details and they aren't there.

And a search for Bower living with Furness, etc., doesn't turn them up.

Can choccy tell us how that 1911 list was compiled?


(Dea -- GR has reduced the font size one level. To get it back to where you had it, if you want to, hold down the control key and press the + key.)


edit - Artbeat beat me to it on the Bowers.

Odd, odd.


Has anyone heard from Susan at all?

Susan -- click the Add link in any post to add a message here.

Dea the text size had gone smaller so being short sited i have gone to next size up, it is better but don't get as much on screen in one go .