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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 16:18 |
If you have just an address for someone can it be found on the census ? an if so would someone be so kind as to look one up for me ?
The year would be 1891 so the census nearest that and the address is 15 Neptune street which i think is in ROTHERHITHE as thats where thay got married the person in question is a man be the name of WILLIAM PEARCE and he was 35 years old and his occupation was CLERK any help would be most wellcome
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Patricia
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20 Jan 2010 16:36 |
Hi Julia yes I looked at the 1891 census for 15 Neptune Street Rotherhrithe, no Wm Pearce at no 15
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20 Jan 2010 16:37 |
Not very good at this but i had a look on FIND MY PAST and at 15 Neptune st Rotherhide were the Hunter family
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 16:41 |
Thank you both for trying this person is a pain in the you know where im so up against a brick wall
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MaureeninNY
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20 Jan 2010 16:53 |
Hi Julia, I see the marriage record to Eliza Jane RIVERS in 1891. Have you found them on any other census to see where he says he's from??
Maureen
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Patricia
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20 Jan 2010 16:57 |
Unfortunately William Pearce is a common name, do you have any info on children etc,
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 17:04 |
Hi yes i have their marriage certificate but on a the marraige certificate of his son also willam pearce (1933) hes dead and in the box of fathers occupation it says that he was a licenced victuallar.
his son was my grandfather whos death certificate we have but cant find a birth certificate and untill we get thta we cant put a headstone on his grave its as thought neither of them ever existed ive been to the national archives ect but no luck
thanks all for looking
julia
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MaureeninNY
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20 Jan 2010 17:10 |
About what year was William jnr. born??
And were you able to find William and Eliza on the 1901 or 1911?
Maureen
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LadyKira
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20 Jan 2010 18:46 |
1891 census - address transcription Address: 5, Neptune Street, Shadwell 78 PEARCE, Daniel Head Married M 39 1852 Labourer London VIEW 78 PEARCE, Lizzie Wife Married F 27 1864 some connection? London street numbers were changed at one point.
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LadyKira
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20 Jan 2010 19:11 |
1911 census - household transcription Person: PEARCE, William George Address: 68 Borough Road Southwark
PEARCE, William George Head Married 33 years M 54 1857 Lic Victualler London Clapham VIEW HOUNTON, Lily May Servant Single F 24 1887 Barmaid London Islington VIEW BETTS, James Martin Servant Single M 21 1890 Barman Norfolk Norwich VIEW ANGUS, George Alfred Servant Single M 24 1887 Potman London Peckham VIEW MARTIN, William Servant Single M 32 1879 Barman London Spalding VIEW BARHAM, Lucy Monica Servant Single F 35 1876 Cook Domestic London New Cross VIEW CRONAN, May Servant Single F 18 1893 Housemaid Domestic London Poplar
Unfortunatel mrs pearce not at home
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LadyKira
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20 Jan 2010 19:18 |
This has a william and Eliza but he is a fishmonger
1901 census - household transcription Person: PEARCE, William Address: 55, St Peters Street, Islington PEARCE, William Head Married M 47 1854 Fishmonger City London VIEW PEARCE, Eliza Wife Married F 40 1861 Stepney London VIEW PEARCE, William Son Single M 16 1885 Telegraph Operator Newington London VIEW PEARCE, George Son Single M 14 1887 Telegraph Messenger Newington London VIEW PEARCE, Charles Son Single M 9 1892 Camberwell London VIEW KIDSON, Frederick Nephew Single M 35 1866 Fishmongers Asst St Georges in E London
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 19:19 |
FLO
her maiden name was RIVERS
MAU NY
we think he wwas born around 1888 as we have his death certificate but cant find any record of this
FLO
william jnr married FLORENCE ADA POWIS on 7th oct 1933 by ths time he was a COMMISSIONED SIGNAL BOATSWAINE on H.M.S..VICTORY portsmouth
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Julie
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20 Jan 2010 19:27 |
1901
Eliza Jane Pearce Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Wm Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, London, England Civil parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Bermondsey County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 220 Household Members: Name Age Wm Pearce 53....1848, Poplar, Middlesex, England Eliza Jane Pearce 32 Wm Pearce 11.....1890, Islington, London, England
Williams occupation is a Constable (Docks)
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This is Eliza in the 1871..by the 1881 her & Rose were in an orphanage
Eliza J Rivers Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George J Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age George J Rivers 34 Mary A Rivers 30 Geo Williams 10 Annie A Rivers 8 Emily H Rivers 7 Clara A Rivers 5 Agnes T Rivers 3 Eliza J Rivers 2 Rose Rivers 11 month
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LadyKira
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20 Jan 2010 19:33 |
maybe this one
Day: 13 Month: 1 Year: 1858 Forename: Eliza Othernames: Surname: Rivers Fathers forenames: William Fathers occupation: Master Mariner Mothers forenames: Eliza Birth date: 23 July 1857 Address: Stainsby Terrace, Poplar Location of church: Limehouse Parish: St Anne Church address: Commercial Road Entry No: 1614 Source Ref: X069/002 Transcriber Note:
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Julie
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20 Jan 2010 19:35 |
There are 2 possibles for Williams birth
Births Mar 1889 (>99%) Pearce William Charles Islington 1b 397 Births Dec 1889 (>99%) Pearce William John Islington 1b 285
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 19:41 |
gosh you lot are amazing i wouldnt have found all of this out ( im not that computer literate) thank you so much especially julie who looks as though shes cracked it
am going to meet my dad tomorrow so i have printed it all off and he can take a look
thanks again everybody
julia
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Julie
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20 Jan 2010 19:55 |
Hi Julia
Be careful with those births William C is defiantly not your William as that ones parents are coming up as Edwin & Ellen on the 1891
There is another William Pearce on the 1891 he is down as born 1890 & parents names are William & Elizabeth but they are not your William & Eliza as other info is not the same as the 1901
So i wouldn't put my life on as either being correct.......really need to pick your guys up in the 1891
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 20:00 |
I have the info on the orphanage that thay were put in to we have all the letters of entry and who put them there makes interesting reading
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julia of sussex
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20 Jan 2010 20:23 |
Thanks again for all your help
julia
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MaureeninNY
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20 Jan 2010 21:40 |
Marriage Ref: Name: Eliza Jane Rivers spinster (can't read her address,but it looks like 4 Ad??) Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Spouse Name: William Pearce bachelor Occ: Clerk 15 Neptune Place Spouse Age: 35 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 May 1891 Parish: All Saints, Rotherhithe County: Middlesex Borough: Southwark Father Name: George Rivers dec'd Commercial Traveller Spouse Father Name: James Pearce dec'd Labourer
Oh goodness!!!!! This HAS to be them!! And no thanks to Ancestry... Name: Liza Jane Jackson Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richd Gender: Female Where born: Mile End Civil parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:3 Adam Street Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household Members: Name Age Richd Jackson 35 Elizabeth Mary Jackson 29 Elizabeth Catherine Jackson 7 Richard Willm Jackson 5 Sarah Jackson 3 Emma Jackson 3 William John Jackson 10/12 Albert Snelling 21 >>>William Plane 35 Pearce on image Occ: Constable L.C.D. Coy born Poplar >>>Liza Jane Jackson 26 obviously Pearce
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 381; Folio 77; Page 10;
So that ties in somewhat with the 1901 Julie found. (except for the ages..) And where is young William? I wonder if he was registered as RIVERS??
Maureen
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