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I am near Catford. What was the address.

And see what you make of the little puzzle I have left you.

Little Boy Blue wold be easier.

Not just Payne by name your gran then Tracey !

he was born at 2 Patrol Place.

Tracey

I checked out the address on my A-Z.
I was puzzling why an address would be off a main rd I was very familiar with but I did not recognize. We sat naved it on our way past yesterday. To our amazenent it is not a rd but I tiny pedestrian alley around 5-6 feet wide. Never noticed it before. It was dark and we could not stop but may be original buildings.

Hey Ladykira.

Thanks for that..... i did have a look on Googlemaps, as they have traced the images past there.... The lane did look tiny.

I wonder if they are the original buildings?


Tracey x

You could try Lewisham library.

I know, but sadly i'm in North Warwickshire...

It's on my list of things to do this year.


T x

I have resurrected this one.

I think we can now assume that Ethel Marshall Warby was indeed born Ethel Marshall Currell.

Her mother is Sarah (maiden name unknown), but whom is her father?.... i have tried to narrow it down a little, but i need some opinions from others!!

I am going to order this birth cert i think, but it would be nice if we solved it before it arrives!


Tracey x

To bring it back to the front and get back into the groove.

This one is where we start is it?

Ha !
1891

WARBY, John Head Married M 36 1855 Labourer
St Albans
Hertfordshire
WARBY, Sarah Wife Married F 34 1857
Hatfield
Hertfordshire
CURRELL, Maud Stepdaughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Hatfield
Hertfordshire
CURRELL, Ethel M Stepdaughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Luton
Berkshire
WARBY, Alfred J Son M 5 1886
St Albans
Hertfordshire
WARBY, Alice E Daughter F 2 1889
Hatfield
Hertfordshire


Sept 1882 birth.

Currell Ethel Marshall Luton 3b 427

1881 for Sarah Currell?


EWIN, Alfred Head Married M 28 1853 Solicitor
Chester
Cheshire
EWIN, Jessie Wife Married F 29 1852 Solicitor Wife
London
Middlesex
EWIN, Phyllis Maria Daughter Single F 0 1881
Luton
Bedfordshire
EWIN, Isaac England Father Married M 59 1822 Hosier
Gedney
Lincolnshire
EWIN, Frances Mother Married F 52 1829 Hosier Wife
Chester
Cheshire
>>>>>>>CURRELL, Sarah Servant Single F 24 1857 Domestic Cook
Hatfield
Hertfordshire
FROST, Alice Servant Single F 16 1865 Domestic Housemaid
Newport Pagnell
Buckinghamshire


Registration District:
Luton Sub District:
Luton Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Luton Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Union Street, Luton County:
Bedfordshire


Reckon your Ethel is gonna come up illegit?
And older sister Maud..!

Was a marriage ever found for Warby / Currell?I dont see one.

There was a John Walby / Sarah Currell marriage found.

I think you might be right on the Base born situation.... i was hoping it might not be tho :-/

Grrr


T x

This birth would maybe give another surname for mummy?Or not.

Births Mar 1886
WARBY Alfred John St. Alban's 3a 557

If you follow Sarah back under Currell (assuming she didnt marry and had Maud and Ethel out of wedlock)she has siblings with some of her childrens names.
Alfred and Alice.

Now this is where i should do as others do and assume the head of the house is the father of the children and go on a wild goose chase and copy a wrong tree lol....


T x

But you are ordering that birth to be sure ,so later on you wont have to chop your tree up for firewood and use it to keep warm at one of your Fests instead..!

Bed for me
Night.

I just find it weird how Ethel married under the name Warby and Maude her sister married under the name Currell.

I was thinking maybe they didn't know John Warby wasn't their father, but it seems they probably did!


T x

Maybe Mr Warby WAS Ethels father and just not on her birth cert.
But with the name of Marshall as her middle name I would have thought that a Mr Marshall was her father myself,seeing has how she looks to be very much of the same kind of birth as my Nan...Illegitimate !

I loose track.
Do you have Ethels marriage cert? I cant remember..

Yeah i have Ethel's marriage cert, what did you wanna know, aparent from the obvious and she names John Warby as her father!

T x

That was what I wanted to know,if she named a father.
Dont mean he is her father,but he could well be simply by the fact that she marries as Warby and names him and Maude doesnt..

Have you investigated back on either the Warby or Currell line to see if Marshall is a name that crops up anywhere else?