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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 21:25 |
can anyone help me find out about frederick moeller he was born in germany in 1853 on his children cenus it just says germany british subject on the 1901 any help would be great
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17 Jan 2010 21:34 |
Hi,
What are the childrens names and years of birth?
Dee x
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 21:35 |
Have you got this one too?
1881 England Census a Name: Charles F. Mooler Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Frances Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil parish: Fazakerley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Long Lane Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Farmer And Butcher Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Walton ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles F. Mooler 30 Frances Mooler 24 - Birkenhead Charles H. Mooler 3 - Birkenhead Louis Mooler 1 - Liverpool Alfred Heenen 25 - visitor; gentleman; Germany Minna Heenen 18 - visitor; London Laurance Kelly 29 - indoor servant
??? Marriages Mar 1876 >>>Brandekamp Fanny Liverpool 8b 76 Brennon John Liverpool 8b 76 HIGGINS Julia Liverpool 8b 76 >>>MOELLER Charles Frederick Liverpool 8b 76
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 21:51 |
For reference:
1901 England Census Name: Frederick Moeller Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Frances Gender: Male Where born: Germany Civil parish: Birkenhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address: 11 Clifton Rd
Occupation: Cattle Dealer
Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Tranmere ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 317 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Moeller 40 Frances Moeller 45 - Birkenhead Louis Moeller 21 - Cattle Dealer (Steersman????); Liverpool Alice Moeller 19 - Liverpool Minnie Moeller 16 - Birkenhead Mary Callan 20 - servant
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 21:54 |
charles frederick born 1877 alcie elizabeth born 1881 henry 1883 minnie 1885 all in birkenhead
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Sue from Perth Oz
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17 Jan 2010 22:06 |
Need the childrens names to many possibilities
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BatMansDaughter
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17 Jan 2010 22:07 |
Is this his marriage;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brandekamp Fanny Liverpool 8b 76 Brennon John Liverpool 8b 76 HIGGINS Julia Liverpool 8b 76 MOELLER Charles Frederick Liverpool 8b 76
If so it should hopefully tell you his fathers name.
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AnnCardiff
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17 Jan 2010 22:12 |
Friedrich Heinrich Joachim Moeller Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 10 APR 1853 Warnow,Schoenberg,Meckl Schw Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Joachim Christian Johann Moeller Family Mother: Dorothea Friederike Regina Stade
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 22:15 |
thankyou
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AnnCardiff
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17 Jan 2010 22:17 |
Schönberger Land is an Amt in the district of Nordwestmecklenburg, in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany. The seat of the Amt is in Schönberg.
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BatMansDaughter
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17 Jan 2010 22:18 |
CARL FRIEDRICH MOELLER Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 01 SEP 1848 Christening: 03 SEP 1848 Steegen, Westpreussen, Preussen Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JACOB MOELLER Family Mother: ERDMUTH KRUEGER
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 22:19 |
thankyou so much i will have ago finding out
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 22:20 |
I found this on Ancestry message board, but VERY old (1998), before most censuses were online. So I think there may be errors particularly for Charles Frederick's wife.
--- I am seeking info on a Charles Frederick Moeller who was living in Birkenhead, Cheshire about 1875-1920. His wife was Margaret ? He was a buyer, seller and breeder of prize shorthorn cattle. Also, his son, also Charles Frederick Moeller, born about 1877 in Birkenhead, married Hannah Jones in Bromborough, Cheshire in 1898. The name was slowly changed to Miller about 1900. ---
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 22:23 |
Eldest son
1901 England Census Name: Frederick Moeller Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Birkenhead Ecclesiastical parish: Bidston St Oswald County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Birkenhead Sub-registration district: Tranmere ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 163 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Moeller 23 Hannah Moeller 21 Frederick Moeller 1 Harry Moeller 3 months
Have you found Henry on any census?
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 22:23 |
his wife was frances
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 22:25 |
yes henry
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 22:29 |
A little bit more information, same person, same year (1998)
---I am seeking information on the Miller family in the areas of Birkenhead, Great and Little Sutton, Capenhurst, Chester, and Bromborough area. My great-great grandfather Charles Frederick Miller (went as Fred Miller) was born circa 1850 in ?Germany. The original name was Moeller but this changed to Miller when they came to the UK. This man operated a large Shorthorn cattle breeding operation, supposedly one of the most prominent buyer and sellers of the time in England and Argentina. His herd was called the Sutton Shorthorn Herd. The family home is listed as in Birkenhead and the farm listed as 6 miles from Chester, 9 from Birkenhead, 1 from Capenhurst and 1/2 a mile from Little Sutton Station. In 1898, his son (also Charles Frederick Miller born circa 1878) married a Hannah Jones (daughter of James Jones) in Bromborough. They (Charles and Hannah) went on to have at least 4 children--Charles (who emigrated to Argentina), Harry (my grandfather who emigrated to Canada), Minnie (who remained in England) and Frank (who emigrated to Australia.) They all left around 1920 or so. I would appreciate any information on the family, the cattle operation, the farm and research in general in this area. ---
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17 Jan 2010 22:31 |
1911 census - address transcription Address: 11 Clifton Road Tranmere Hope this is of some help, on the original image they state they had a child who died. Liz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 306 MILLER, Frederick Head Married M 60 1851 Exporter Of Live Stock Germany Rostork VIEW 306 MILLER, Frances Wife Married 35 years F 55 1856 Cheshire Birkenhead VIEW 306 HEATH, Rebecca Servant Single F 26 1885 General Servant Domestic Cheshire Birkenhead VIEW 306 WHITEHOUSE, Annie Nurse Widdow F 60 1851 Sick Nurse Berks Windsor VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22004 Reference: RG14PN22004 RG78PN1309 RD452 SD2 ED1 SN306 Registration District: Birkenhead Sub District: Tranmere Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Birkenhead Address: 11 Clifton Road Tranmere County: Cheshire
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Ozibird
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17 Jan 2010 22:31 |
Angela, it would be a little more helpful if you could expand your answers.
What does "yes henry" mean? Yes, you have found him on a census? If so, which one?
Also a comment on what has been found already would let us know if we're going down the right track.
Thanks, Ozi
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Angela
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17 Jan 2010 22:33 |
thankyou it was on 1901 cenus
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