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1861 census for Rutland please

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Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 13:52

OK, so what I am thinking is this - when Samuel and Sarah married, was she a widow? Perhaps she had been married to the brother (was he Joseph), which is why you can't find a birth for her. Give me 5 again ...

EDIT Forget that. Joseph is alive and kicking in 1901.

Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 13:58

So I take it you don't have the marriage cert for Samuel and Sarah? That's the safest way to solve the mystery.

EDIT - Just remembered where I saw that marriage - it was on LDS and guess what? It's another submitted record. Do you have the BMD reference for it? All I'm getting for Samuel Dams around that time is Oct-Dec 1870 to either Isabella Roberts or Elizabeth Oldham.

Frances

Frances Report 5 Jan 2010 14:16


Aveyronnaise, The marriage for Samuel and Sarah in 1869 has Samuel listed as DAWS not Dams. I have informed free bmd but they have not altered it.

Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 14:23

So there she is just Sarah Staples, not E? Just remind me, where did the E come from? Was that only from the 1851 census?

Frances

Frances Report 5 Jan 2010 14:23

Aveyronnaise, I have just had another thought. Could you check out the 1861 census for Tixover Grange in Rutland to see if Sarah is there being a servant please.

Frances

Frances Report 5 Jan 2010 14:27

Aveyronnaise, I have just read your message and the E comes from my grandmother's birth certificate. It states mother Sarah Elizabeth formerly Staples. Another interesting point is my grandmother has two brothers. The eldest is Alfred SLATER and the other is Richard FRANCIS.

Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 14:28

As I see it, in order to progress accurately you have no option but to go ahead and order the marriage certificate for Samuel and Sarah. I would be interested to know whether her status is "widowed"! It's the only solution I can think of. On the 1911 census people's FULL names were supposed to be filled in and she has only put "Sarah" not "Sarah Elizabeth".

Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 14:29

Just read your last reply - well, I would be inclined to take those brothers' names as pretty hefty evidence!! Will check out the 1861 for Tixover Grange though. Back soon!

EDIT Nope, am not seeing her there either. Sorry.

Frances

Frances Report 5 Jan 2010 14:53

Aveyronnaise, you seem to have done as much as you can for me, thanks very much for all your help.

Aveyronnaise

Aveyronnaise Report 5 Jan 2010 14:59

My pleasure. Good luck!