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I am trying to find information on Hannah and Robert Leonards children.
Robert Leonard was born approx 1832 in Staffordshire and married Hannah. They are on the 1871 census and have the following children William age 10, Herbert age 8 and Edwin age 4.
Hannah shows on the 1891 census as a widow. I think William Leonard possibly shows on the 1891 census but with year of birth as 1864. But that is all the information I can find on William, Herbert and Edwin after 1871 census. I have looked on the free bdm site and can't see any record of there death between 1871 and 1891.
Does anyone have any ideas of what I can try next to see what happened to them next?

Many Thanks,
Georgina

Hi,

Just for ref;

1871 England Census
about Robert Ledward
Name: Robert Ledward
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Shenstone, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Lichfield
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 181
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Ledward 36
Hannah Ledward 35
William Ledward 10
Herbert Ledward 8
Edwin Ledward 4


Dee x

1881 England Census
about Edwin Leonard
Name: Edwin Leonard
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Lichfield, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Lichfield St Mary
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Back Lane
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Baker

Registration district: Lichfield
Sub-registration district: Lichfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Leonard 45
William Leonard 21
Edwin Leonard 16
George Leonard 7
William Chaplain 52
William Denstone 65

Thanks for the info, thats the information I have but its leonard not ledward.
I don't know what happened to the children after this (1871 census)
Georgina

1891 England Census
about Edwin Leonard
Name: Edwin Leonard
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Lichfield, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 5



Occupation; Groom/domestic servant


Dee x

This Edwin in 1911 is born in Lichfield;

HOUSEHOLD LEONARD EDWIN JAMES M 1866 45 Walsall Staffordshire

With possibly;

HOUSEHOLD LEONARD ESTHER F 1862 49 Walsall Staffordshire



Dee x

Thanks Denise,
I tried to look up information for the 1881 census on the familyorg site and couldn't find Edwin that way. What site did you use to find this information? Thank-you for your help. I wonder what happened to Herbert?
Many Thanks,
Georgina

Possible marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1907 (>99%)
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KEMP Edith Florence Lichfield 6b 807
>>>>>>>>LEONARD Edwin James Lichfield 6b 807
MERCER William John Lichfield 6b 807
>>>>>>>>PRITCHARD Esther Lichfield 6b 807



There is a birth in Lichfield for Edwin James Leonard in 1865, and also the 1911 census confirms a marriage in 1907.


Dee x

Hi,

I use ancestry.co.uk


I'll look for the other 2 brothers now.


Dee x

A possible for Herbert;

1881 England Census
about Herbert Frans. Leonard
Name: Herbert Frans. Leonard
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Lichfield, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Chilton
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Lime Tree Cottage
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Stableman

Registration district: Wantage
Sub-registration district: Hendred
ED, institution, or vessel: 2



Dee x

Dee,
Thanks so much for looking all of this up for me, its much appreciated.
Georgina

IF herbert as added francis to his name this looks promising;

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Herbert F Leonard
Name: Herbert F Leonard
Arrival Date: 13 May 1927
Estimated birth year: 1864
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ship Name: Roma
Search Ship Database: View the Roma in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 20
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4053
Birth Location Other: lichfield <<<<<<<<<<<<!!!!
Page Number: 107




Dee x

1900 United States Federal Census
about Herbert F Leonard
Name: Herbert F Leonard
Home in 1900: Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Age: 36
Birth Date: Jan 1864
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Residence : Dedham Town (Southeast Part), Norfolk, Massachusetts
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert F Leonard 36
Nellie Leonard 10
Elsie Leonard 6
Marion Leonard 2


His occupation is stated as a Coachman, this would tie in the 1881 census.


Dee x

Hi Dee,
I'm a bit confused what does this mean that Herbert could have gone to New York via Italy. Sorry to be a bit thick!!!
George

1910 United States Federal Census
about Herbert F Leonard
Name: Herbert F Leonard
Age in 1910: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Spouse's name: Agusta
Home in 1910: Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1888
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert F Leonard 46
Agusta Leonard 43
Elsie F Leonard 15
Marian S Leonard 12
Herbert A Leonard 7


Think his birth place is recorded wrong, Occupation Coachman

1920 United States Federal Census
about Herbert F Leonard
Name: Herbert F Leonard
Home in 1920: Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
Age: 56 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Father's Birth Place: Massachusetts
Mother's Birth Place: Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 403
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert F Leonard 56
Frances Leonard 50
Herbert F Leonard 15


Occupation is Coachman.......... think he has decided to go the whole hog this time and state he is Americian

Hi,

I think the ship sailed from Italy, onto the USA and then back to the UK.... his last residence was in the USA.


Dee x

1930 United States Federal Census
about Herbert F Leonard
Name: Herbert F Leonard
Home in 1930: Dedham, Norfolk, Massachusetts
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Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Augusta
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert F Leonard 65
Augusta Leonard 63


Occupation is Chauffuer

This can't be right now as the birth place is Ireland
George

I looked at the Ireland borth on the Census and think it is a mistake as then it staes ENG.

People often put different things on the census returns but as you see by 1930 we're back born in England.



Dee x