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19 Dec 2009 22:52 |
Thank everyone for the invaluable info you have given me on my Father-in-law Harry Hornbrook.It will take me quite a while to go through it all. It makes searches so difficult when there is such a variation in the spelling.Is it maybe they could'nt spell in those days.If you can find anymore info I will be forever grateful. Terry.
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19 Dec 2009 21:09 |
1841 England Census Name: Thomas Hornabrook Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1771 Gender: Male Where born: Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock Hundred: Pyder County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Burlorn
Occupation: Ag lab
Registration district: St Columb Major Sub-registration district: Padstow Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hornabrook 70 Elizabeth Hornabrook 60 Phillippa Hornabrook 20 Mary Bazeley 5
All born in county
Marriages Jun 1841 Arthur Samuel Bodmin 9 57 BURTON Jane Bodmin 9 57 CHAPMAN Jane Bodmin 9 57 CHAPMAN William Bodmin 9 57 COPPIN Sarah Bodmin 9 57 HARRIS John Ellicott Bodmin 9 57 Hornabrook Philippa Bodmin 9 57 Menhenneott Richard Bodmin 9 57
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19 Dec 2009 20:57 |
1851 England Census Name: Rich Hormbroock Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Grace Father's Name: Thomas Gender: Male Where born: St Breock, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Tredennick
Occupation: ag lab
Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Padstow ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Rich Hormbroock 42 Grace Hormbroock 41 - St Ifsey, Cornwall Thomas Henry Hormbroock 7 Thomas Hormbroock 79 - widowed; father
Both Thomases born St Breock.
1861 England Census Name: Grace Hanabroock Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richd Gender: Female Where born: St Issey, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Tredinick
Occupation:
Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Padstow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 125 Household Members: Name Age Richd Hanabroock 52 - farm labourer Grace Hanabroock 51 Richd Hanabroock 26 - carpenter John Hanabroock 7
1871 England Census Name: Grace Hornebroock Age: 61 Estimated birth year: abt 1810 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richd Gender: Female Where born: St Issey, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Tredinick
Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Padstow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Richd Hornebroock 62 - farm labourer Grace Hornebroock 61 John Hornebroock 17 - son; carpenter; St Breock Anne Hornebroock 7 - [very difficult to decipher relationship, could be boarder, could be Daughter]; St Breock
1881 England Census about Grace Hornbrook Name: Grace Hornbrook Age: 72 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Richard Gender: Female Where born: St Issey, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Whitecross Tredinnick Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Padstow ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Richard Hornbrook 73 - Ag Lab Grace Hornbrook 72
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19 Dec 2009 20:48 |
Can't find William snr in Egloshayle before 1861. There is this birth.
Births Mar 1841 Hornibrook William St. Columb. M. 9 80
1851 England Census Name: Wm Hornabwoch [Hornabrook on image] Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: St Breock, Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Breock County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Penveth/Panveth [difficult to read]
Occupation: Farm labourer
Registration district: St Columb Sub-registration district: Padstow ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age David Williams 66 Mary Williams 58 John Williams 33 Jonathan Williams 29 Mary G Williams 26 Richard Martinich 18 [Menhinick on image] Richd Hornabwoch 16 - Farm labourer; St Breock, Cornwall Wm Hornabwoch 11 Mary Ann Johns 20 Elizabeth Hornabwoch 15- [Hornabrook] House servant; St Breock, Cornwall
1841 England Census Name: William Hornbrooke Age: 11 weeks Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Gender: Male Civil parish: St Breock Hundred: Pyder County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Tredinick
Occupation:
Registration district: St Columb Major Sub-registration district: Padstow Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Richard Hornbrooke 30 - ag lab Grace Hornbrooke 30 Richard Hornbrooke 5 Elizabeth Hornbrooke 4 Ann Hornbrooke 2 William Hornbrooke 11 weeks
All born in county
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19 Dec 2009 10:39 |
WILLIAM MENHINICK Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 FEB 1824 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: JOHN MENHINICK Family Mother: ELIZABETH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:39 |
WILLIAM MENHINNICK Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 MAR 1821 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM MENHINNICK Family Mother: GRACE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:38 |
WILLIAM MENHINICK Pedigree Male Family Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH DOCKING Family Marriage: 30 JUN 1819 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:37 |
WILLIAM MENHINICK Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 NOV 1805 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Parents: Father: WILLIAM MENHINICK Family Mother: ELIZABETH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:36 |
WILLIAM MINHINICK OR MENHINNETT Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: ANN GILL Family Marriage: 22 SEP 1771 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:35 |
WILLIAM MINHINNICK Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 04 MAR 1798 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: RICHARD MINHINNICK Family Mother: JENIPHER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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19 Dec 2009 10:35 |
1881 William MENHENICK Head W Male 57 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Agl Labr William MENHENICK Son U Male 27 St Breock, Cornwall, England Agl Labr Emma MENHENICK Dau U Female 19 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Housekeeper Lousia MENHENICK Dau Female 14 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar Jane MENHENICK Dau Female 8 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Scholar
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Tregorden Bridge Census Place Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341550 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2293 / 110 Page Number 19
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19 Dec 2009 10:34 |
1881
William MENHINICK Head M Male 83 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Labourer Elizabeth MENHINICK Wife M Female 80 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Egloshayle Road Census Place Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341550 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2293 / 118 Page Number 3
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19 Dec 2009 10:33 |
1881
William MENHINICK Head M Male 65 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Millwright Mary Ann MENHINICK Wife M Female 66 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Eliza Jane MENHINICK Daur U Female 26 Egloshayle, Cornwall, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Sladesbridge Census Place Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Family History Library Film 1341550 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2293 / 135 Page Number 7
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19 Dec 2009 10:26 |
1871 Piece: RG10/2252 Place: Egloshayle -Cornwall Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: Egloshayle Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 45 Page: 19 Schedule: 91 Address: Tregorden Bridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MENHINICK William Head M M 47 Ag Laborer Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHINICK Jane Wife M F 35 Cornwall - St Breock MENHINICK William Son U M 18 Ag Laborer Devon - Plymouth MENHINICK Caroline Dau - F 13 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHINICK Elizabeth Jane Dau - F 11 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHINICK Emma Dau - F 9 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHINICK Edward John Son - M 6 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHINICK Louisa Dau - F 3 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle
Piece: RG10/2252 Place: Egloshayle -Cornwall Enumeration District: 10 Civil Parish: Egloshayle Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 61 Page: 22 Schedule: 118 Address: Treworder -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HORNEBROOK William Head M M 30 Agl Labr Cornwall - St Breock HORNEBROOK Anna Maria Wife M F 26 Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNEBROOK William J Son - M 9 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNEBROOK Mary Wills Dau - F 8 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNEBROOK Richard Son - M 6 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNEBROOK Caleb Son - M 3 Scholar Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNEBROOK Emily Dau - F 1 Cornwall - Egloshayle
1861 Piece: RG9/1539 Place: Bodmin -Cornwall Enumeration District: 9 Civil Parish: Egloshayle Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 46 Page: 18 Schedule: 90 Address: Tregorden Bridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MENHENICK William Head M M 37 Ag Labourer Cornwall - St Kew MENHENICK Jane Wife M F 25 Cornwall - St Breock MENHENICK William Son - M 7 Cornwall - St Breock MENHENICK Mary A Dau - F 5 Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHENICK Caroline Dau - F 3 Cornwall - Egloshayle MENHENICK Elizabeth Dau - F 1 Cornwall - Egloshayle
Maybe Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%) Brown Jane St Columb 5c 211 Menhinick William St Columb 5c 211
Piece: RG9/1539 Place: Bodmin -Cornwall Enumeration District: 10 Civil Parish: Egloshayle Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 57 Page: 12 Schedule: 77 Address: 19 Tower Hill Church Town -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks WILLS Robert Head W M 63 Ag Labourer Cornwall - Egloshayle
Piece: RG9/1539 Place: Bodmin -Cornwall Enumeration District: 10 Civil Parish: Egloshayle Ecclesiastical Parish: - Folio: 57 Page: 12 Schedule: 78 Address: 19 Tower Hill Church Town -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HORNABROOK William Sonlaw M M 20 Ag Labourer Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNABROOK Hannah M Dau M F 17 Cornwall - Egloshayle
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) Bullock Richard Bodmin 5c 175 >>Hornbrook William Bodmin 5c 175 Marshall Jane Bodmin 5c 175 >>Wills Hannah Maria Bodmin 5c 175
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19 Dec 2009 09:44 |
FreeCEN 1891 confirms Ozi's remarks:
Piece: RG12/1815 Place: Bodmin -Cornwall Enumeration District: 7 Civil Parish: St. Mabyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Mabyn Folio: 55 Page: 6 Schedule: 29 Address: Fenterlanick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HORNABROOK William J Head M M 29 Agricultural Laborer(Em'ee) Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNABROOK Emma Wife M F 28 Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNABROOK Caroline Dau - F 4 Cornwall - Egloshayle HORNABROOK Edward J Son - M 8m Cornwall - St Mabyn
Piece: RG12/1815 Place: Bodmin -Cornwall Enumeration District: 7 Civil Parish: St. Mabyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Mabyn Folio: 55 Page: 6 Schedule: 30 Address: Trethick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks HUGH William H Head M M 29 Agricultural Laborer(Em'ee) Cornwall - Egloshayle HUGH Catherine Wife M F 27 Cornwall - St Mabyn HUGH Fanny Dau - F 1 Cornwall - St Mabyn CLEMENCE Eliza Ma-Law W F 72 Pauper Cornwall - St Kew Note: Pauper has been crossed out
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19 Dec 2009 08:54 |
1881 England Census Name: Emma Menhenick Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Egloshayle County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Tregorden Bridge
Occupation: Housekeeper Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Egloshayle ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Menhenick 57 - widowed; ag lab; Egloshayle, Cornwall William Menhenick 27 - ag lab; St Breock, Cornwall Emma Menhenick 19 Lousia Menhenick 14 - scholar; Egloshayle, Cornwall Jane Menhenick 8 - scholar; Egloshayle, Cornwall
1881 England Census Name: William J. Hornebrook Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Egloshayle, Cornwall, England Civil parish: Egloshayle County/Island: Cornwall Country: England Street Address: Church Town
Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Bodmin Sub-registration district: Egloshayle ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Hornebrook 40 - farm labourer; St Breock, Cornwall Hannah Hornebrook 37 - Egloshayle, Cornwall William J. Hornebrook 19 Richard Hornebrook 16 Caleb Hornebrook 13 Emily Hornebrook 11 Katey Hornebrook 9 Fanny Hornebrook 7 Thomas Hornebrook 4 Frederick Hornebrook 2
All children born Egloshayle, Cornwall
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Terence
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18 Dec 2009 23:31 |
Hi christine. thanks for the info. we had sorted it roughly but not 100% sure as there are so many ways the name was spelt. As far as we were aware Harry was Carolines illegitimate son and that she never married. We think his father was a Robert Broad. It is so complicated because in the past a Bragg married a Hornbrook and Harry married Mildred Bragg, his first cousin. If you can unravel anymore, iwould be very grateful. Thanks again. Terry. ( harry hornbrooks son-in-law)
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Ozibird
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18 Dec 2009 20:57 |
Even if Caroline is his mother, William John & Emma are his grandparents so they are his ancestors.
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18 Dec 2009 20:50 |
Births Mar 1893 Hornbrook Minnie Bodmin 5c 68
1911: HORNBROOK MINNIE F 1893 18 Bodmin Cornwall
Is Terence going to get back to us, do you think?
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18 Dec 2009 20:28 |
1891 is a right muddle-up by Ancestry. Only William J, Emma, Caroline and Edward J are Hornbrooks. The rest belong to the next household of William H Hugh.
Emma looks like his mum, unless of course in 1911 he's a grandson and he's Caroline's illegitimate son.
It looks like she never married, unless by coincidence this is another Caroline born the same year. Deaths Jun 1928 Hornbrook Caroline 41 Bodmin 5c 80
- but as this is the only birth, I'd say it is the same woman. Births Sep 1886 HORNBROOK Caroline Bodmin 5c 81
- and I can't find any Hornbrooks marrying a Caroline in the time frame.
1911: HORNBROOK CAROLINE F 1887 24 Bodmin Cornwall working in this household: HEXT GEORGE M 1855 56 Bodmin Cornwall HEXT ARTHUR CHARLES M 1895 16 Bodmin Cornwall MALE HENRIETTA F 1880 31 Bodmin Cornwall CLEAVE MARK M 1891 20 Bodmin Cornwall
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