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Still cant find a Rose Johnson Marring a Lusty

Rose Wolfe is someone different, isn't she?
Marriages Jun 1911
Luck Eva M Dartford 2a 1202
Lusty Stanley Dartford 2a 1202
Stevenson Albert E Dartford 2a 1202
Wolfe Rose Dartford 2a 1202

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Births Jun 1921
Lusty Charles S Johnson Portsmouth 2b 861

Births Mar 1922
Lusty Nancy Johnson Portsmouth 2b 835

Births Dec 1922
Lusty George Johnson Portsmouth 2b 758


Births Dec 1923
Lusty Ellen M Johnson Portsmouth 2b 741

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Births Mar 1926
Lusty Daisy E Johnson Portsmouth 2b 725

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Births Dec 1927
Lusty Walter L Johnson Portsmouth 2b 650

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Births Mar 1929
Lusty Marjorie M Johnson Portsmouth 2b 706

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Births Sep 1933
LUSTY Kathleen M Johnson Portsmouth 2b 593

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yes that married is different but thats the nine kids six died 3 are still alive but u can see johnson is his wife

The only thought I had was that Rose Wolfe was previously married, and her maiden name was Johnson. However, there are three Lusty children born in Dartford, mmn Wolfe, so that seems unlikely.

no someone else thought that but rose may johnson my gran wos 17 when thay married so she wos too young to have been married before but u can see why i have hit a brick wall no census records etc i mean stanley should be on 1891 1901 and 1911

another person match stanleys parents as emma and gearge lusty and there is a sister daisy lydia lusty i know stanley had a sister but not sure of the wifes maaned name which think wos williams but she wos born in cork ireland but again am not sure

where did they narry Gary- and do you know when? You say Rose johnson was 17... where when did she die?

No still cant see the brick wall you claim to have hit. The info is availible - so its not a brick wall

rose wos born 1900 in woolwich london died 1973 in portsmouth thay married in london 1917 i have been told by my mother but i cant find a marrage record on free bdm

If Stanley was born in 1882, and Rose in 1900, he was a lot older than her when they married.

Do their death registrations bear this fact out?

hi minnie yes thay do he wos 89 when he died she wos 73 he died 1971 and rose died 1973 both in portsmouth area

Gary, I am really struggling here. I hope you realise that this is because we don't have the same information as you have.

You have now told us that Rose is called Rose May, so that is new, but hasn't helped me find anything. How do you know she was only 17 when she married Stanley? You don't have Stanley and Rose's marriage certificate do you? So how do you know she was 17 on marriage?

Still no marriage.

And still no sign, Gary, that you intend sending for the birth of Stanley Skinner Lusty, despite telling us that you are certain that he is your grandfather. So why not send for it? You can't do this hobby without spending money. Ask for the cost as a Christmas present from someone in your family.

Gary, have you contacted the cemeteries in Portsmouth to determine whether Stanley and Rose have a grave? Even if they were cremated, the local crematorium will have a record.

In order to continue we need some facts.

concrete facts, not hearsay.

Stans birth cert beng the obvious start.

I cant find....
Lusty /johnson marriage
Rose Johnson birth where/when you say

records do go missing on the way to the GRO- but not two for the same person


If they were Portsmouth people, why do you think they then married in London?

we need clarification as to why you think she was born Woolwich. Mayb e she wasn't born Johnson ( illig perhaps) and parents married after.

There is no death showing either for Rose Lusty in 1973 or anywhere near that date in Portsmouth.

Christine

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Gary,

There isn't much point nudging the thread up again without any further information from you.

You have been advised by numerous people that you need to buy the birth certificate for Stanley Skinner Lusty to find out his mother's maiden name.

Christine

yes i now can confirm his mothers name wos emma williams

So, have you bought the birth certificate yet for Stanley? If you are confirming that his mother was Emma Williams what was his father's name and occupation on the birth certificate please?

yes george james lusty father his fathers job wos listed as a carter ie horses etc

is it possible someone can look on 1901 or 1911 census for rose may johnson cant find a birth or marrage or death record for i know she wos born in 1900 in london and died in portsmouth 1973

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