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Well I still haven't heard from my uncle but I've been looking at family trees on ancestry and found one with the exact same person being Ethel Sumner but this person have already got her parents, they were......James Sumner and Patience May including other family members as well.

So for everyone who been searching Ethel Sumner, well done!!! Looks like we have the right family, at last.

Thank you very much for all your help in answering this thread.

Marriages Sep 1928
Sumner Vera Collings Uxbridge 3a 188
Sumner Vera Malpas Uxbridge 3a 188
Collings Harry Sumner Uxbridge 3a 188
Malpas Harry Sumner Uxbridge 3a 188

Marriage for one of the children:

Marriages Dec 1935
Burgess Evelyn M Sumner Staines 3a 42
Sumner Welcome J Burgess Staines 3a 42

Ok

I have done some digging, and the family i found in 1911 are living at the same address The Sumner's were living in on the 1901 census, so we def have a connection here!

SUMMER, Alfred Langley Head Married M 39 1872 Labourer Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Alice Amy Wife Married 14 years F 35 1876 Reading Berkshire
SUMMER, Alfred Henry John Son M 12 1899 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Henry Albert Roberts Son M 10 1901 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Arthur Willam Son M 9 1902 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Ivy Alice Irien Daughter F 7 1904 School Hayes Middlesex
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RG number:RG14 Piece:6786 Reference:RG14PN6786 RG78PN339 RD127 SD3 ED4 SN26

Address:White Row Yeading County:Middlesex


Tracey x

I will have to give up now or tea will burn!

Kayx

Agree Colin - but where are they in 1911?

In 1901 a Patience May and James Sumner were living next door to each other in Hayes, Middlesex - they would tie up with the christening I found in 1905

1901

Name: Patience May
[Patience Hawkins]
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Female
Where born: Binfield, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hayes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hayes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Hawkins 52
Patience May 24
William May 18
Rose May 15
Alfred Hawkins 6
Gertrude May 3

1901

Name: James Sumner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Gender: Male
Where born: Hayes, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hayes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Hayes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hayes
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Sumner 64
Edward Sumner 32
James Sumner 20
Louisa Sumner 18
Alice Sumner 13

Yeah i understand what you are saying now...

I'm going to go back over the 1911 and see if a county was actually entered...


Tracey x

K the family you found are the right family!

Read back and i went to the 1891 census with Lavinia Ball, daughter of Richard Ball. The same Richard Ball that has the young Grand-daughter Sumner living with them in 1911...

Tracey x

Tracey

I think the family I originally found in 1911 was not the right family as they came from Staffordshire. Vicki confirmed that Ethel was born in Hayes Middlesex

Kayx

Colin

I don't think she has. The message can be read either way which is why I delated my original post thinking I had misread it

Colin

K found Ethel living with her Grandfather and i managed to prove through other census's and the marriage that her Grandfather was Richard BALL not BACE as on the 1911....

Richard's daughter Lavinia Ball, married a Sumner!


Whom are you looking for now?


Tracey x

I just realised we need a May/Sumner marriage...and i'm looking at Sumner/May's lol

It's my age i think!


Tracey x

1911, Alfred Langley Sumner...

SUMMER, Alfred Langley Head Married M 39 1872 Labourer Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Alice Amy Wife Married 14 years F 35 1876 Reading Berkshire
SUMMER, Alfred Henry John Son M 12 1899 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Henry Albert Roberts Son M 10 1901 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Arthur Willam Son M 9 1902 School Hayes Middlesex
SUMMER, Ivy Alice Irien Daughter F 7 1904 School Hayes Middlesex
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RG number:RG14 Piece:6786 Reference:RG14PN6786 RG78PN339 RD127 SD3 ED4 SN26

Address:White Row Yeading County:Middlesex

Colin

I am stumped with 1911 - even tried every first name without surnames

K

Thats 2 May/Sumner marriages....

Uxbridge isn't that small is it? :-/


Tracey x

Good find - I wondered if they married

I know this is a little weird...but look at this...

Marriages Jun 1916
Howse Evelyn E M Lever Uxbridge 3a 115
Lewer Horace A Howse Uxbridge 3a 115
>>>Sumner James May Uxbridge 3a 115

James Sumner also married a May?

Need to find the missing bride...


Tracey x

If the 1905 christening I found is correct the parents christian names where James and Patience - Thiis could be Patience's death

Deaths Mar 1923 (>99%)
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SUMNER Patience 46 Uxbridge 3a 49

wow, alot of info there, great work but will double check with my uncle. I'll be going off-line soon and wont be back on this tread til sometime in the week but hopefully by then I will of heard back from my uncle.