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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 19:58 |
On 1861 census her mother aged should read 30
1851 Name: Elizabeth Seriviner Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Hadleigh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Cosford Sub-registration district: Lavenham ED, institution, or vessel: 4d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Seriviner 56 Beer Seller Sarah Seriviner 32 Belchamp Walter Essex Thomas Seriviner 31 Newport Pagnell Bucks Elizabeth Seriviner 20 Hadleigh Edward Seriviner 12 Hadleigh Josiah Fenn 63 Lodger Charlotte Fenn 60 John Clarke 15 John Fenn 15
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Talie
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17 Oct 2009 19:41 |
:o Looks like she could be the first illigitimate ancestor in my family!
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 19:35 |
Christening of Jane?......looks as if she may have been illegitimate
JANE SCRIVENER Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 APR 1857 Hadleigh, Suffolk, England Death: Burial: Parents: Mother: ELIZABETH SCRIVENER Family Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 19:30 |
Births Mar 1857 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scrivener Jane Cosford 4a 438
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 19:25 |
This I think is Jane in the 1861 census. Looking at the actual census image the surname is 'Scrivener'. Her mother's age is hard to read so might not be as transcribed. It says her mother is unmarried
Name: Jane Scrwend Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Hadleigh County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Cosford Sub-registration district: Hadleigh ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 170 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Scrwend 50 b Hadleigh occ Dressmaker Jane Scrwend 4
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SharoninGreece
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17 Oct 2009 19:25 |
Talia,
James fathers first name is not mentioned, only his profession Tailor,
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Talie
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17 Oct 2009 19:18 |
Wasn't the work house quite a bad place for someone to end up? Or am I thinking to far back..? On the marriage between her and thomas, was her father stated?
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 19:14 |
Looks as if Jane was in a Workhouse in the 1871 census Name: Jane Scrivener Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Gender: Female Where born: Hadleigh, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Semer Town: Semer County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Cosford Sub-registration district: Hadleigh ED, institution, or vessel: Cosford Union Workhouse Household schedule number: 1
Also listed with her was Elizabeth Scrivener aged 8 ....perhaps her sister?
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 19:11 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Collins Robert Rettle Romford 4a 448
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Talie
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17 Oct 2009 19:09 |
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your help :) Is it possible anyone could email me the marriage of Thomas & Jane? I'd like to have that printed off :)
Thanks ! x
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 19:06 |
1841 Name: Robert Collins Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Suffolk, England Civil parish: Martlesham Hundred: Carlford County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Colneis Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Collins 25 Mary Collins 25 Mary Collins 1
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 19:01 |
To finish off the censuses for Robert here he is in the 1841 census
Name: Robert Collins Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where born: Suffolk, England Civil parish: Martlesham Hundred: Carlford County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Colneis Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Collins 25 Mary Collins 25 Mary Collins 1
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Talie
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17 Oct 2009 19:00 |
Rattle! Now that could be somthing. In the same Grave as Thomas and jane is a Robert Rattle Collins who from the age I assume is a son, could of perhaps of had his mothers maiden name as his sons middle name..
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 18:57 |
A possible for Thomas's parents Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1837 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLLINS Robert Ipswich 12 665
RATTLE Mary Ann Ipswich 12 665
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 18:52 |
Robert Collins in 1851 census
Name: Robt Collins Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Anne Gender: Male Where born: Falkenham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Bucklesham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Carlford ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Robt Collins 35 Mary Anne Collins 34 b Great Bealings Suffolk Mary Anne Collins 10 b Martlesham Suffolk Noah Collins 8 Ephraim Collins 6 Waller Collins 3 Robt Collins 3 Anne Collins 1
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Talie
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17 Oct 2009 18:46 |
Very interesting stuff! I'm taking note :)
Think I might of just found where Thomas is burried, score!
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 18:45 |
1871
Name: Thomas Collins Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Bucklesham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Colneis ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Robert Collins 55 Mary A Collins 54 Noah Collins 26 Thomas Collins 12 William Collins 10 Esther Collins 6
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Barbara
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17 Oct 2009 18:43 |
1881 census Thomas
Name: Thomas Collins Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Barking County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: East St Arthurs Cottages Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Basket Maker Registration district: Romford Sub-registration district: Barking Town ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Cannon 49 Ellen Cannon 50 Ellen Gentry 12 Thomas Collins 22 Joseph Perry 18
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17 Oct 2009 18:41 |
Possibly Roberts marriage
Name: Robert Collins Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hartismere County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 789 Robert Collins 1859 Hartismere Suffolk Mary Ann Fisk 1859 Hartismere Suffolk
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LondonBelle
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17 Oct 2009 18:40 |
1861 census?
Name: Thomas Collins Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Bucklesham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Bucklesham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Woodbridge Sub-registration district: Colneis ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Household Members: Name Age Robert Collins 45 Mary Collins 44 Noah Collins 18 Ephraim Collins 17 Walter Collins 15 Ann Collins 11 Abigail Collins 9 Lucy Collins 7 Caleb Collins 5 >>Thomas Collins 2 William Collins 11 Mo All children apart from Noah born Bucklesham
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