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Walter Beckwith?Janice & Quinsgran found Hurnell

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Ann

Ann Report 9 Sep 2009 18:38

Janice and Quinsgran,

You have done it again!!!!!!!!

You two are just wonderful please i have got to say it again,
THANK YOU SO VERY,VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VERY KIND HELP AND TIME we on GR are so very lucky to have people like the two of you,
How you do it i just do not know.
Very best wishes to the two of you
Ann.

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 5 Sep 2009 20:46

Great news. What a result. Its nice to see everything confirmed
This will be the marriage.

Sarah Ann Picton 1910 june qt Edmonton. gro ref 3a 885. Unfortunately only 1 male name on the page.

However

Harry Hurnell 1910 june qt Edmonton gro ref 3a -85. So the 1st number is missing

Janice

Janice Report 5 Sep 2009 20:08

The marriage

Marriages Jun 1867
BECKWITH James Marylebone 1a 1014
SWANNELL Mary Ann Marylebone 1a 1014

Janice

Janice Report 5 Sep 2009 19:59

Walter Guy is definitely the right person, so here is the 1871 for his parents:

James Beckwith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Walkern, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Stevenage
Town: Stevenage
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Registration district: Hitchin
Sub-registration district: Baldock

Eliza Swannell 66
Edwin Swannell 31
James Beckwith 25
Mary A Beckwith 24
James Beckwith 3
Rosa Beckwith 1

Janice

Janice Report 5 Sep 2009 19:40

Ann
Have e-mailed you.
Janice

Janice

Janice Report 5 Sep 2009 18:32

YAY! RESULT! :-))

Ann

Ann Report 5 Sep 2009 18:00

Janice and Quinsgran,
because of your fantastic help last night i was able to search around a bit more.
I found why Edith called herself Hurnell, on the 1911 census i found her mother Sarah Hurnell married to a Harry Hurnell for less then a year.
They are living at the same place as Edith and her husband Walter Beckwith.
It looks as if Sarah Dunkley married Charles Picton first and had Edith, but Edith must of really liked this Harry Hurnell as that was the name she told my mother inlaw was her maiden name. Would just love to say thank you again for your fantastic work. So the out come was Edith Picton did married Walter Guy Beckwith!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKYOU SO VERY MUCH,
ANN.

Ann

Ann Report 5 Sep 2009 11:07

Thank you all once again,

You have all been so very kind in helping me, honestly i really cannot thank you all enough.
Janice and Quinsgrand i think you have found the right Walter Beckwith as the family did end up in St Albans Herts.
You two are wonderful!!!!!
Sorry and big thank you to you Choccy
very kind regards to all of you Ann.

Janice

Janice Report 5 Sep 2009 08:38

Yes, that's what made me feel Walter Guy is the one we want.

Still think Hurnell is a name that's come from somewhere else though: there's nothing appearing in this line to confirm the name at all. There are Hurnell BMDs in the Edmonton district, however, so perhaps someone else in the family married a Hurnell somewhere along the line.

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 5 Sep 2009 02:30

Nice one Janice.
James Beckwith is a carpenter the same as Walter in 1911

Janice

Janice Report 4 Sep 2009 23:24

1881 census on Familysearch:

James BECKWITH Head M Male 35 Walkern, Hertford, England Carpenter
Mary Ann BECKWITH Wife M Female 34 Stevanage, Hertford, England
James BECKWITH Son Male 13 Stevanage, Hertford, England Errand Boy
Marion BECKWITH Dau Female 9 Preston, Hertford, England Scholar
Frank BECKWITH Son Male 7 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Arthur BECKWITH Son Male 6 London, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann BECKWITH Dau Female 34 London, Middlesex, England
Walter G. BECKWITH Son Male 5 m Wood Green, Middlesex, England

Dwelling Bounds Green 7 Edith Road
Census Place Tottenham, Middlesex, England

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Sep 2009 23:03

Have you any idea when she died?

Deaths after April 1969 give dates of birth

Janice

Janice Report 4 Sep 2009 22:59

Wondered if Edith married after Walter died, and came across this:

Marriages Mar 1940
Batchelor Percy Beckwith St.Albans 3a 3886
Beckwith Edith E Batchelor St.Albans 3a 3886

What do you think?

Janice

Janice Report 4 Sep 2009 22:55

Walter Guy Beckwith's birth and death:

Births Dec 1880
BECKWITH Walter Guy Edmonton 3a 268


Deaths Mar 1935
Beckwith Walter G 54 St.Albans 3a 1126

Janice

Janice Report 4 Sep 2009 22:49

Ann,
If I were you, I would buy the birth certificate of one of those children, then you would definitely know the mother's maiden name.
I had the remarriage idea too, but then found her birth so didn't pursue it.
Janice

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Sep 2009 21:03

births are on freebmds.

Edith K Beckwith 1911sept qt Edmonton mothers maiden name Picton gro ref 3a 1001 or 3a 1271.
2 births with 2 different numbers and the same mothers mn

Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Sep 2009 21:02



not sure that this is going anywhere -

Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
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Dunkley Alfred Winslow 3a 705
Dunkley Leah Winslow 3a 705



Choccy

Choccy Report 4 Sep 2009 20:59



may not be connected -

1891 England Census
Name: Edith Picton
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Nash
Ecclesiastical parish: Nash
Town: Nash
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Winslow
Sub-registration district: Winslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Dunkley 57
Leah Dunkley 60
Frederick Smith 25
Fanny Dunkley 20
Ethel Smith 5/12
*********************Edith Picton 8
Herbert Picton 7




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1148; Folio 67; Page 6; GSU roll: 6096258.


possible marriage of Edith's parents -

Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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DUNKLEY Sarah Ann Pancras 1b 310
Picton Charles Pancras 1b 310






Ann

Ann Report 4 Sep 2009 20:54

Quinsgran,
that was fantastic finding the childrens second names that just may help,
thank you Quinsgran
kind regards Ann

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 4 Sep 2009 20:48

Births
Ivy Edith A Beckwith 1901 June qt Edmonton gro ref 3a 490
Mildred Ethel Beckwith 1904 june qt Edmonton gro ref 3a 493
Leonard Walter Beckwith 1907 june qt Edmonton gro ref 3a 621

Just a little advice about family giving details. My mother always said her mother was born in Derby.She was born in Middlesbrough. She also said her mother died of cancer of the blood . I got her death cert and my mother was the informant. She didnt die of that