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londonbelle
Just had a recap on eliza crewe.i think this is them in 1881 as there is a Crewe connection to another member of the family .Charles son of Thomas married Elizabeth Barassin in1907 Elizabeth was born in 1882 and was the sister of my g/grandfather Albert joseph Barassin.
A Sophie Annie Crewe was Alberts Godmother in 1881. last night i was thinking on this Crewe name and new i had seen it before ,so looked at my notes and found this sophie Crewe,too much of a coincidence ,dont you think

rosanna glide died in 1872 age 14 years

Hi Sablon

Back again .......

What area of the country did Sophie Crewe come from?

With regards to Thomas Snrs age in the 1881 census if you look at the 1891 census he is 57 but then in the 1901 census he is only 60! In all the other censuses his year of birth is around 1834-1836 it is only in the 1901 census that it leaps up to 1841.

on the 1881 census says she was born st sampsons guernsey lol

charles seems to have dissapered 1n 1911 married 1907 so where has he gone with the family
also my g/grandfather albert Barrasin is not on 1911
they should all be in guernsey then,

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry W. SMITH Head M Male 40 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Master Ship Carpenter
Harriet M. SMITH Wife M Female 36 St Peter Port, Guernsey, Channel Islands Carpenter Wife
Henry W. SMITH Son Male 13 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Walter G. SMITH Son Male 10 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Alice M.M. SMITH Daur Female 8 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Edith E. SMITH Daur Female 6 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Harriet SMITH Daur Female 4 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Elizabeth SMITH Daur Female 3 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Bertha SMITH Daur Female 1 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
William H. SMITH Son Male 2 m St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Sophia A. CREWE Serv U Female 21 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Gen Serv


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Source Information:
Dwelling South Quay Rd
Census Place St Sampson, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342352
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5628 / 70
Page Number 7

Yes, I can only locate Thomas Jnr & Family in the 1911. Mind you I don't find the 1911 census very user friendly.....you can spend a small fortune trying to find people!!

I think I've found Charles in the 1911 census in Guernsey under surname GLIVE! He is with wife Elizabeth and daughter Winifred......do you think that is him?

HOUSEHOLD GLIVE CHARLES M 1887 24 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD GLIVE ELIZABETH F 1883 28 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD GLIVE WINIFRED F 1909 2 Guernsey Guernsey

Could this be Albert & Family in the 1911?

HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN ALBERT M 1902 9 Guernsey Guernsey
>>>>HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN ALBERY M 1881 30 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN EMILY F 1906 5 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN FLORENCE F 1886 25 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN IRENE F 1908 3 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN LILIAN F 1905 6 Guernsey Guernsey
HOUSEHOLD BARRASSIN WILLIAM M 1909 2 Guernsey Guernsey

Hi ,sorry for the delay in replying ,yes that is my G/grandfathers family ,spelt the name wrong. i tried variations except RR and SS together also Albert ,albery no wonder i could not find him thanks,as the barrasins in Guernsey are all related i am 100% on that one,
Charles sounds likly too.Given all the mistakes the 1911 are making
So Charles is here in guernsey and making the follow up on census for The 2 Thomas's its looking Good
and charles is born here so i will try to find his birth and see if the mother matches up

found this in 1881
this Crewe family living in same street as where my Great grandfather was born and had the godmother Sophie Crewe who is a servent in 1881,this must be her family

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mary A. CREWE Head W Female 50 England
Charles CREWE Son U Male 20 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
William CREWE Son U Male 18 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
James CREWE Son U Male 16 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Stone Dresser
Harriet CREWE Daur U Female 14 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands
George CREWE Son Male 11 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Walter CREWE Son Male 8 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar
Eliza CREWE Daur Female 6 St Sampsons, Guernsey, Channel Islands Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Rolland Road
Census Place St Sampson, Guernsey, Channel Islands
Family History Library Film 1342352
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5628 / 84
Page Number 35

it looks like maybe Mary A Crewe born 1831 Eng could be an aunty of Eliza Crewe married to Thomas Glide , giving the guernsey /uk link.
this has to be Sophies mother,same parish .

also this census including a 17 year old Eliza in 1881


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel CREW Head M Male 58 B Down, Somerset, England Coal Miner
Pheobe CREW Wife M Female 56 Guernsey, Channel Islands
Eliza E. CREW Daur U Female 17 B Down, Somerset, England Laundress
Sarah A. CREW Daur Female 14 B Down, Somerset, England
Joseph H. CREW Son Male 11 B Down, Somerset, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling B Down P House
Census Place Bedminster, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341592
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2458 / 77
Page Number 20

i think i need ti get charles birth cert to see if Eliza is his mother i will let you know

Yes, I would be interested to know who Charles' mother is ..... if it is Eliza it could be that the surname might not be 'Crews' as it's possible that Eliza could also have been married before like Thomas.

I think that Thomas' first wife was Emma Mugford

Marriages Sep 1856
GLIDE Thomas Totnes 5b 326
MUGFORD Emma Totnes 5b 326

and that she died

Deaths Dec 1877
GLIDE Emma aged 43 Totnes 5b 128

hi Londonbelle.well , i went to the liabry today and had a look at the original census 1891 the only difference was Clarana she was Clara May born eng,
I then looked up charles Glide's birth .
Charles Harvey Glyde Jan 26th 1885 son of Thomas Glide and Eliza Angel both born England and charles Born st peter port.

so we have this

Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)
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GLIDE Thomas Totnes 5b 326

MUGFORD Emma Totnes 5b 326




Deaths Dec 1877
GLIDE Emma aged 43 Totnes 5b 128

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
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Crews Eliza Totnes 5b 332
Glide Thomas Totnes 5b 332




Births Mar 1880 (>99%)
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Glide Thomas Totnes 5b 195

Just to put the cat among the pigeons ...... I know you say that Eliza Angel was born England but in the 1851 census I've found this

Name: Eliza Angel
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Guernsey, Channel Islands
Civil Parish or Township: St Peter Port
Town: St Peter Port
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Occupation: View image
Disability: View image
Registration district: Guernsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Angel 45
Elizabeth Angel 44
Eliza Angel 11
John Angel 5
William Angel 2


So could Eliza & Thomas married on Guernsey?

its possable that they married here but thomas was born in devon in 1880 and then in 1881 in the house of correction in jersey seems alot of jumping about, also the 1881 census says Eliza was born devon

OK .... Here we go with Devon

1841 census
Name: Elija Angel
[Eliza Angel]
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Marldon
Hundred: Haytor
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Paignton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Angel 35
Ann Angel 35
Sarah J Angel 13
Samuel Angel 6
Philip Angel 11
Elija Angel 1 Mo

THEN

1851 census

Name: Eliza Angle
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Philip
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Marldon, Devon, England

Civil parish: Paignton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Paington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Angle 48
Ann Angle 48
Samuel Angle 16
Eliza Angle 9

I think the enumerator has just written the surname as Angle rather than Angel

THEN

1861 census now married to William H Crew

Name: Eliza Crews
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: William H
Gender: Female
Where born: Marldon, Devon, England

Civil parish: Paignton
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub-registration district: Paignton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
William Crews 61
William H Crews 23
Eliza Crews 19


All we need to do now is find a marriage for Eliza & William!!!