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Dennis
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27 Jul 2009 09:38 |
Please may I ask for a lookup on a Emma Struthers (married name) b.1846 Ardleigh, Essex. Sorry I do not have name of husband (which I'm trying to find he's born c1840) and their son Archie was b1872 - Archie is in school for 1881 census so no help there. Also cannot find marriage on BMD between a Struthers and Emma Keeble - I've tried a few variants but no joy on that either.
Best wishes
Dennis
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}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){
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27 Jul 2009 10:08 |
Hi Dennis
Can I ask how you know her maiden name was Keeble?
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Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:15 |
For Reference....
1881 Archibald Struthers Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Albans St Peter County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: Alma Road Claremont House Academy Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: St Albans Sub-registration district: St Albans ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Regards Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:19 |
Can't find a birth ref for Archibald either but did find this which might or might not be a daughter
Births Mar 1873 Struthers Emma Hackney 1b 539
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Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:27 |
Just wondering if this is the 1873 Emma.....I cannot find a birth for Archibald either....checked under Keeble..just in case,
1881Emma Struthers Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John R. Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Bow County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 14 Usher Road Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Poplar Sub-registration district: Bow ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John R. Struthers 38 Mary A. Struthers 36 Robert Struthers 12 Emma Struthers 8 Fredk. Struthers 6 Kate Struthers 1 Regards Vera
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}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){
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27 Jul 2009 10:31 |
Same here Vera....looked under Keeble with no joy.
That could well be the Emma in 1881.
There doesn't appear to be an Emma Keeble born 1846 +/- 5 years in Ardleigh Essex in 1861 or 1851 either
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Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:33 |
Just clutching at straws....thought I would show you this death......
Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Keeble Emma 31 Colchester 4a 215
near her age.........
Regards Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:37 |
1881... Found this on on the image...if someone could look as well....it could be Struther.....
Emma Strutten Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Ardleigh, Essex, England Civil parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: No 3 Lisson Grove Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Ladies Nurse Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 2c Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Payne 48 Selina Payne 42 Etherington Payne 23 Selina Payne 12 Louisa Payne 7 Alice Payne Emma Strutten 37 Harriet Dowse 65 Regards Vera
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}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){
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27 Jul 2009 10:40 |
Yes, I saw that too Vera and read it as Struther
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Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:44 |
1891 Emma Struthers Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Ardley, Essex, England Civil parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Paddington Sub-registration district: St John Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Walter Agnew 29 Mabel Agnew 25 Victor C W Agnew 3 Lewis P Agnew 1/12 Emma Struthers 45 Eliza Spacey 26 Clara Kingsland 25 Mary Rickards 27 Caroline Brown 24 May Vince 18 Regards Vera
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27 Jul 2009 10:49 |
1901
Archie R Struthers 28 born Ardleigh Essex Ellen Struthers 26 Samuel R Struthers 5 Leonard A Struthers 3 Grace E Struthers 1 Charles Pocock 46 RG13; Piece: 346; Folio: 150; Page: 4
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27 Jul 2009 10:50 |
Marriages Jun 1895 Coleman Charles Ernest A Kensington 1a 368 Dent May Kensington 1a 368 Moore Ellen Kensington 1a 368 Struthers Archie Raymond Kensington 1a 368
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27 Jul 2009 10:52 |
Possible birth
Births Sep 1842 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keeble Emma Colchester 12 67
Ardleigh comes under Colchester registration district.
There is a possible on 1861 census with parents of Benjamin and Sarah - Emma shown as born Colchester
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27 Jul 2009 10:55 |
Hi Glitter....hope you are well
This looks like that Emma in 1871
Beny George Hreeble 61 Sarah Heeble 60 Emma Heeble 28 Harriet Heeble 26 Arthur James Heeble 16 Claude William Hesble RG10; Piece: 1687; Folio: 45; Page: 6
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27 Jul 2009 10:59 |
Good Find Jeanette :-))
Regards Vera
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Dennis
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27 Jul 2009 11:00 |
Hi All
Many thanks for your help. Emma Struthers is sister of John Struthers who is married into my family tree. Here is birth of Emma on BMD
Births Mar 1846 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keeble Emma Tendring 12 26[27]
and this is her bother John and his family in 1881
1881 census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John KEEBLE Head M Male 51 Ardleigh, Essex, England Iron Rivetter Sarah KEEBLE Wife M Female 49 Southampthead, Hertford, England George KEEBLE Son U Male 20 Oldford, Middlesex, England Laborer Rosannah KEEBLE Daur U Female 14 Bromley, Middlesex, England Scholar Susannah KEEBLE Daur U Female 10 Bromley, Middlesex, England Scholar John KEEBLE Grand Son Male 5 Peckham, Surrey, England Frederick BONHAM Lodger U Male 41 Eaton, Buckingham, England Bricklayers Laborer
My information is that Emma remarried around 1898
Parents of Emma and John Keeble were Samuel c1801 and Susan so 1851 census should pick up Emma to confirm her link to John.
Best wishes
Dennis
Sorry Update - I meant Keeble not Struthers for Emma and John in my first paragraph
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27 Jul 2009 11:07 |
1851 Emma Keable Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Female Where born: Ardleigh, Essex, England Civil parish: Ardleigh County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Tendring Sub-registration district: Harwich ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Keable 52 Susan Keable 51 Harriet Keable 10 Emma Keable 5 Fenn Samuel 65 Regards Vera
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27 Jul 2009 11:12 |
1841 Susan Keeble Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Essex, England Civil parish: Ardleigh Hundred: Tendring County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Tendring Sub-registration district: Ardleigh Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Keeble 40 Susan Keeble 40 Samuel Keeble 14 John Keeble 11 Robert Keeble 9 Charlotte Keeble 7 William Keeble 4 Regards Vera
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27 Jul 2009 11:14 |
There's this marriage with one of the grooms missing
Marriages Mar 1869
Aldous Emma Rosetta Hartismere 4a 649 Keeble Emma Hartismere 4a 649 Reason Shephard Hartismere 4a 649
Shepherd Reason's wife was Emma born 1851 Wetheringsett Suffolk
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27 Jul 2009 11:17 |
Hi Vera
Many thanks for the 1851 census - looks like we have the two spellings Keeble and Keable to contend with - John Keeble was b1830 so may have moved out by 1851 census - so would appear in 1841 census hopefully with same parents as Emma below - very sorry it would mean another lookup, this is also taking us away from who she married and when.
Archie did marry Ellen Moore and the person I'm currently in touch with regarding this part of the family has photo of Archie Struthers so any possible confusion is prior to his birth.
Regards
Dennis
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