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Lookup Please 1871 census Essex

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Dennis

Dennis Report 27 Jul 2009 09:38

Please may I ask for a lookup on a Emma Struthers (married name) b.1846 Ardleigh, Essex. Sorry I do not have name of husband (which I'm trying to find he's born c1840) and their son Archie was b1872 - Archie is in school for 1881 census so no help there. Also cannot find marriage on BMD between a Struthers and Emma Keeble - I've tried a few variants but no joy on that either.

Best wishes

Dennis

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:08

Hi Dennis

Can I ask how you know her maiden name was Keeble?

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:15

For Reference....

1881
Archibald Struthers
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Albans St Peter
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Alma Road Claremont House Academy
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Albans
Sub-registration district: St Albans
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age


Regards Vera

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:19

Can't find a birth ref for Archibald either but did find this which might or might not be a daughter

Births Mar 1873
Struthers Emma Hackney 1b 539

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:27

Just wondering if this is the 1873 Emma.....I cannot find a birth for Archibald either....checked under Keeble..just in case,

1881Emma Struthers
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John R.
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Bow
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 14 Usher Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John R. Struthers 38
Mary A. Struthers 36
Robert Struthers 12
Emma Struthers 8
Fredk. Struthers 6
Kate Struthers 1


Regards Vera

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:31

Same here Vera....looked under Keeble with no joy.

That could well be the Emma in 1881.

There doesn't appear to be an Emma Keeble born 1846 +/- 5 years in Ardleigh Essex in 1861 or 1851 either

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:33

Just clutching at straws....thought I would show you this death......

Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%)
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Keeble Emma 31 Colchester 4a 215

near her age.........


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:37

1881...
Found this on on the image...if someone could look as well....it could be Struther.....

Emma Strutten
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Ardleigh, Essex, England

Civil parish: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: No 3 Lisson Grove
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Ladies Nurse

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Payne 48
Selina Payne 42
Etherington Payne 23
Selina Payne 12
Louisa Payne 7
Alice Payne
Emma Strutten 37
Harriet Dowse 65

Regards Vera

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:40

Yes, I saw that too Vera and read it as Struther

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:44

1891
Emma Struthers
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ardley, Essex, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Agnew 29
Mabel Agnew 25
Victor C W Agnew 3
Lewis P Agnew 1/12
Emma Struthers 45
Eliza Spacey 26
Clara Kingsland 25
Mary Rickards 27
Caroline Brown 24
May Vince 18


Regards Vera

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:49

1901

Archie R Struthers 28 born Ardleigh Essex
Ellen Struthers 26
Samuel R Struthers 5
Leonard A Struthers 3
Grace E Struthers 1
Charles Pocock 46
RG13; Piece: 346; Folio: 150; Page: 4

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:50

Marriages Jun 1895

Coleman Charles Ernest A Kensington 1a 368
Dent May Kensington 1a 368
Moore Ellen Kensington 1a 368
Struthers Archie Raymond Kensington 1a 368

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Jul 2009 10:52

Possible birth

Births Sep 1842 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Keeble Emma Colchester 12 67


Ardleigh comes under Colchester registration district.



There is a possible on 1861 census with parents of Benjamin and Sarah - Emma shown as born Colchester

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 10:55

Hi Glitter....hope you are well

This looks like that Emma in 1871

Beny George Hreeble 61
Sarah Heeble 60
Emma Heeble 28
Harriet Heeble 26
Arthur James Heeble 16
Claude William Hesble
RG10; Piece: 1687; Folio: 45; Page: 6

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 10:59

Good Find Jeanette :-))

Regards Vera

Dennis

Dennis Report 27 Jul 2009 11:00

Hi All

Many thanks for your help. Emma Struthers is sister of John Struthers who is married into my family tree. Here is birth of Emma on BMD

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
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Keeble Emma Tendring 12 26[27]

and this is her bother John and his family in 1881

1881 census
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John KEEBLE Head M Male 51 Ardleigh, Essex, England Iron Rivetter
Sarah KEEBLE Wife M Female 49 Southampthead, Hertford, England
George KEEBLE Son U Male 20 Oldford, Middlesex, England Laborer
Rosannah KEEBLE Daur U Female 14 Bromley, Middlesex, England Scholar
Susannah KEEBLE Daur U Female 10 Bromley, Middlesex, England Scholar
John KEEBLE Grand Son Male 5 Peckham, Surrey, England
Frederick BONHAM Lodger U Male 41 Eaton, Buckingham, England Bricklayers Laborer

My information is that Emma remarried around 1898

Parents of Emma and John Keeble were Samuel c1801 and Susan so 1851 census should pick up Emma to confirm her link to John.

Best wishes

Dennis

Sorry Update - I meant Keeble not Struthers for Emma and John in my first paragraph

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 11:07

1851
Emma Keable
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Ardleigh, Essex, England

Civil parish: Ardleigh
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Harwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Keable 52
Susan Keable 51
Harriet Keable 10
Emma Keable 5
Fenn Samuel 65

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 27 Jul 2009 11:12

1841
Susan Keeble
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Essex, England

Civil parish: Ardleigh
Hundred: Tendring
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Tendring
Sub-registration district: Ardleigh
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Keeble 40
Susan Keeble 40
Samuel Keeble 14
John Keeble 11
Robert Keeble 9
Charlotte Keeble 7
William Keeble 4


Regards Vera

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 27 Jul 2009 11:14

There's this marriage with one of the grooms missing

Marriages Mar 1869

Aldous Emma Rosetta Hartismere 4a 649
Keeble Emma Hartismere 4a 649
Reason Shephard Hartismere 4a 649


Shepherd Reason's wife was Emma born 1851 Wetheringsett Suffolk

Dennis

Dennis Report 27 Jul 2009 11:17

Hi Vera

Many thanks for the 1851 census - looks like we have the two spellings Keeble and Keable to contend with - John Keeble was b1830 so may have moved out by 1851 census - so would appear in 1841 census hopefully with same parents as Emma below - very sorry it would mean another lookup, this is also taking us away from who she married and when.

Archie did marry Ellen Moore and the person I'm currently in touch with regarding this part of the family has photo of Archie Struthers so any possible confusion is prior to his birth.

Regards

Dennis


Signing off