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27 Aug 2009 20:03 |
Hi Julia,
All the convictions are from Ancestry, I'll pick this up again later......... kids want their supper.
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 19:58 |
Hi Julia,
I think Henry may turn up in 1861 with a wife Comfort, they marry in 1862, I can't see this man prior to this, so maybe he went away too??? Not sure where though;
1861 England Census about Henry Bulger Name: Henry Bulger Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Comfort Gender: Male Where born: Bath Civil parish: Bristol St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: Weir County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: St Paul ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Henry Bulger 44 Comfort Bulger 30 Henry Bulger 5 Alice Bulger 2 Albert Bulger 1 Mo
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bulger Henry Bristol 6a 147 Hatherall Comfort Bristol 6a 147
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27 Aug 2009 19:52 |
Using Maureens fabulous site;
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Regis MILLARD Maria BARRY 1842 Lansdown Bath Bath LNS/4/215 MILLARD Daniel BARRY 1840 Lansdown Bath Bath LNS/2/329 MILLARD William BARRY 1838 Lansdown Bath Bath LNS/1/285
So Elizabeth Millard is NOT Thomas and Elizabeth Millards child!!!!
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 19:47 |
Oh my God!!!! loving the criminal in the family!!! what a find Dee! was this information from Ancestry.co.uk? I wonder what she stole???? and it wasn't the first time!!!
Maybe Henry was in prison as well!! oh my god what a family, good old Henry may have been a silk thief.
The census information is fantastic, they must have been looking after her while her mum was in prison!
How jucy!! got to go and tell my mum!!
Thank you x
Julia
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27 Aug 2009 19:47 |
Now Daniel and William Millard are registered at Bath for their births and the dates would be correct with the 1841 census, however the only Elizabeth Millard registered is;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1841 ------------------------------------------------- Millard Elizabeth Bath 11 24
This would be after the 1841 census ............. looking more and more like Elizabeth Bulger has become a Millard????
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 19:41 |
1851 England Census about Elizh Millard Name: Elizh Millard Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Elizh Gender: Female Where born: Bath Civil parish: Walcot Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Bath Sub-registration district: Lansdown ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 155 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Millard 56 Elizh Millard 54 Leah Millard 18 Jane Millard 14 William Millard 12 Daniel Millard 11 Elizh Millard 9 Maria Millard 7 <<<<<<<<< witness on Elizabeth Bulgers marriage cert? Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 19:39 |
The 1841 census I found for Caroline has this Millard family living next to her......... just have a look at the ages and how they go down in age, 1 person is out of the sequence;
1841 England Census about Elizabeth Millard Name: Elizabeth Millard Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Walcot Hundred: Bath Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Bath Sub-registration district: Lansdown Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thos Millard 45 Elizth Millard 40 Thos Millard 25 Mary Millard 15 Susanna Millard 14 Lech Millard 8 Jane Millard 4 Wm Millard 3 Daniel Millard 1 Elizabeth Millard 2 <<<<<<< Could this be Elizabeth Bulger???? Normally the ages of the children descend from the eldest to the youngest, and then guests, visitors etc... normally after them, so could this be a cousin?
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27 Aug 2009 19:19 |
New South Wales and Tasmania, Australia, Convict Pardons and Tickets of Leave, 1834-1859 about Caroline Bulger Name: Caroline Bulger Vessel: Tasmania Piece: HO 10/62 Province: Tasmania Title: Pardons Year(s): 1852-1853 Place of Conviction: Bath
11th April 1844 is stated when she was convicted which ties in with the above sentencing. Caroline did 9 years and 2 months of her sentence.
This is her coming back.
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27 Aug 2009 19:14 |
Australian Convict Transportation Registers – Other Fleets & Ships, 1791-1868 about Caroline Bulger Name: Caroline Bulger Vessel: Tasmania Convicted Date: 11 Apr 1844 Voyage Date: 3 Sep 1844 Colony: Van Dieman's Land Piece: HO 11/14 Place of Conviction: Somerset, England
Now I can't see your Caroline after the 1841 census............ so is this the reason why??? And would Henry maybe change his name???
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 19:11 |
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Caroline Bulger Name: Caroline Bulger Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Date of Trial: 6 Apr 1843 Trial Year: 1843 Location of Trial: Somerset, England Sentence: Imprisonment 4 Months Crime: See Image Date of Execution or Release: See Image
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27 Aug 2009 19:10 |
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Caroline Bulger Name: Caroline Bulger Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Date of Trial: 11 Apr 1844 Trial Year: 1844 Location of Trial: Somerset, England Sentence: Transportation for 14 years!!!! Crime: See Image Date of Execution or Release: See Image
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27 Aug 2009 19:09 |
Could this be Caroline;
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Caroline Bulger Name: Caroline Bulger Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Date of Trial: 28 Oct 1842 Trial Year: 1842 Location of Trial: Somerset, England Sentence: Imprisonment >>>>>>> 6 weeks Crime: See Image >>>>>>>>> basically Theft Date of Execution or Release: See Image
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27 Aug 2009 18:54 |
WOW!
Thank you Dee and Maureen!!! How clever!!!
I wonder if Henry traveled a lot with being a Silk Merchant??
Thank you so much x
Julia
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27 Aug 2009 18:46 |
Looks like Caroline;
1841 England Census about Caroline Bullger Name: Caroline Bullger Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Somerset, England Civil parish: Walcot Hundred: Bath Forum County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Bath Sub-registration district: Lansdown Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Millard 45 Caroline Bullger 20 There is also a Millard family living next to them, possibliy John's brother.
Still no Elizabeth or Henry though.
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 17:55 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1839 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BULGER Henry Bedminster 11 67 CALCOTT George Bedminster 11 67 COULSTING Margaret Ann Bedminster 11 67 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MILLARD Caroline Bedminster 11 67 MOORE John Bedminster 11 67 Smith Mary Ann Bedminster 11 67 WATKINS William Bedminster 11 67 WILLSON Alley Bedminster 11 67
A possible??? The daughter of Elizabeth was named Caroline!!!!!
Dee x
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27 Aug 2009 17:52 |
Maureen
That's fantastic!!!!! That could be the break through we need!!!!
Dee x and another one x
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27 Aug 2009 17:40 |
Not sure where to go from here: Bath Birth indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference BULGER Elizabeth Lansdown Bath MILLARD LNS/2/427
http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/
Maureen
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27 Aug 2009 17:14 |
I'm sorry Julia I still can't see anything for Elizabeth or Henry Bulger.
I'm wondering whether Henry Bulger was her "saving face" father......... the Sandalls of realitively good stock and she may have been illegitemate??? Therefore a father who was a silk merchant would have put her on a level pegging in the class stakes??
This is just my theory though, I'm really hoping that someone else will pop in and say "there you go" and prove me wrong.
All the best, dee x
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27 Aug 2009 16:51 |
Could be Millard, the writing is hard to read x
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27 Aug 2009 16:49 |
Thanks Dee,
Fantastic, yes you would be right as all the Sandall men down the line were cabinet makers!
I appreciate you looking, thank you.
Julia
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