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17 Jul 2009 23:58 |
I AM TRYING TO FIND ANY INFO. I CAN ON HELEN ALSO KNOWN AS NELLIE. HER MOTHER WAS ELIZA HARRIET WHITE. HELEN WAS BORN IN 1874 . I THINK IN GLOUSTERSHIRE U.K. AT SOME TIME SHE MOVED TO AUSTRALIA WHERE SHE MARRIED HERBERT BAILEY. IN 1895. I BELIEVE THERE IS SOME CONNECTION TO THE NAME JEYNES ALSO FROM GLOUSTERSHIRE.
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Noela
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20 Jul 2009 08:41 |
Hi Judith,
Found a marriage in Queensland, Australia. Herbert William Bailey married Helen Whyte Janyes in 1895. Ref. 1895/C265.
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20 Jul 2009 08:41 |
Hi Judith,
Found a marriage in Queensland, Australia. Herbert William Bailey married Helen Whyte Janyes in 1895. Ref. 1895/C265.
Noela
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20 Jul 2009 12:35 |
THANK YOU NOELA MUCH APPRECIATED JUDITH
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Judith
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20 Jul 2009 12:37 |
THANK YOU PETER THIS MAY BE THE VERIFICATION I NEED JUDITH
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Julcoe
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21 Jul 2009 04:11 |
The family of the couple that Peter found...
1871 England Census about William Jeynes Name: William Jeynes Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza H Gender: Male Where born: Longdon, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Castle Morton Ecclesiastical parish: St Gregory County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street Address: New House Occupation: Collector of Poor rates etc.
Registration district: Upton On Severn Sub-registration district: Upton on Severn ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age William Jeynes 33 Eliza H Jeynes 30 .. b. Ashton Under Hill, Gloucestershire Tom Jeynes 8 ... scholar .. b. Berrow, Worcestershire, Frank W Jeynes 5 .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire George Jeynes 2 .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire Christopher Jeynes 4 months .. b. Castle Morton, Worcestershire
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21 Jul 2009 04:31 |
THANK YOU SO MUCH JULIE.. THIS TAKES ME A LOT FURTHER WITH MY RESEARCH. WAS THERE ANOTHER CENSUS SHOWING HELEN BEING BORN TO THIS FAMILY.. SHE IS MY G/GRANDMOTHER AND I JUST GET SO NEAR AND THEN ITS LIKE SHE NEVER EXISTED.. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU REGARDS JUDY
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Charlotte
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21 Jul 2009 05:42 |
The family left for Australia before the next census. I have found them in a Queensland Index to ship lists 1846-1912 as follows. Helen is Ellen here. You could even thing of this as a census as their ages are given.
JEYNES Annie 11 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES Christopher 4 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES Eliza 34 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES Ellen 2 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES Emily Inf St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES George 6 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES Tom 13 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698 JEYNES William 37 St James 17 Jan 1876 IMM/115 1060 Z1958 M1698
St. James is the name of the ship. This page is http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/downloads/Indexes/immigration/Jennings_grace-Jones_Alf.pdf
Frank is missing and wonder who Annie is, maybe she was with someone else in 1871.
Good luck,
Charlotte
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21 Jul 2009 05:56 |
THANKS CHARLOTTE THIS IS GREAT . I HAVE SINCE FOUND IN A CENSUS THAT FRANK WAS WITH HIS G/[PARENTS . WILL WORK ON ANNIE BUT THIS IS WHAT I WANTED AS I HAVE RECORDS OF THE FAMILY HERE IN AUSTRALIA.. I REMEMBER A LOT FROM MY G/MOTHER BEFORE SHE DIED BUT JUST COULDNT CLARIFY . THANKS AGAIN JUDY
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Charlotte
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21 Jul 2009 06:36 |
Judith,
I did read your note before sending this but thought there might be some here you didn't know.
While digging around for Vital Records in Queensland found Helen's mother in the list of those who applied for a pension in 1908-1909. In case you needed more proof that this is the right family.
JEYNES Eliza Harriett
no listing for her husband. this is found on http://www.judywebster.gil.com.au/oap-ij.html
Indexes to BMD records thru 1914 (historical period) I saw deaths for two brothers, marriages for several siblings, births of a lot of neices and nephews and another child of William and Eliza Harriett
Look here: https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
Have fun,
Charlotte
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21 Jul 2009 07:17 |
CHARLOTTE , I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SUSPICIOUS THAT THE PARENTS DIDNT STAY TOGETHER AS HELEN OR ELLEN WAS CALLED WHIYE JEYNES AND THE REST JUST JEYNES. I HAVE BEEN INTO OTHER FAMILY TREES AND SHE WAS NEVER THERE.. I KNOW SHE HAD THOSE SIBLINGS AS I HAVE A B/DAY BOOK GIVEN TO ME BY MY G/MOTHER AND ALL NAMES ARE LISTED BUT NOT BIG ON DETAILS.. I WAS DETERMINED TO FIND SOME TRACE AND YOU HAVE CERTAINLY HELPED A LOT. THANK YOU JUDY
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Julcoe
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22 Jul 2009 07:10 |
You probably have this info, but I have added it for easy access to names for the AER records (to follow)
Birth …1879/C988 Jeynes Charles William Eliza Harriet White
Marriage …????? Can not find a marriage for this couple so it is only a guess that he is ‘your’ Christopher Children… 1893/C1244 Jeynes Ruth Esther Christopher Annie Mary Fredericka Entenmann married .. 1916/C3074 RICHARDS George 1895/C1397 Jeynes Stanley William Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann 1897/C1290 Jeynes Wilfred Christopher Annie Mary Fredrica Entenmann … died .. 1897/C576 1898/C1388 Jeynes Christopher Alan Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann married .. 1918/C377 DOWSE Ada Harriet 1901/C5160 Jeynes Edwin Oliver Christopher Mary Annie Frederica Entenmann married .. 1923/C3035 PHEBEY Esther Emma Caroline 1904/C5086 Jeynes James Keppel Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann 1907/C5174 Jeynes Norneen Sybil Christopher Annie Mary Frederica Entenmann 1909/C3868 Jeynes Ellen Dorothy Christopher Annie Mary Fredericke Entenmann 1911/C6271 Jeynes Charles Cyril Christopher Annie Mary Fredericka Entenmann 1914/C6536 Jeynes George Leister Christopher Annie Mary Friedricka Entenmann
Did 'your' Frank immigrate at a later time than his parents...??
Marriage … 1895/C275 Jones Jessie Jeynes Frank William Fisher .. Children … 1900/C7952 Jeynes Walter William Winton Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones .. died .. 1926/C1914 married.. 1926/C1462 TURLEY Esther Jane 1901/C1117 Jeynes Frank Edgar Alfred Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones 1904/C952 Jeynes Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones married .. 1925/B36810 PRESSEY Fred 1905/C942 Jeynes Kathleen May Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones 1907/C1095 Jeynes Annie Winifred Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones 1909/C1372 Jeynes Ina Maude Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones married.. 1929/C46 HENRY Arthur Allan 1912/C1214 Jeynes Arthur Stevens Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones 1912/C1215 Jeynes George Harold Morton Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones 1913/C1357 Jeynes Joseph Claud Frank William Fisher Jessie Jones .. died .. 1914/C429
Marriage … 1884/C563 Jeynes Tom WALL Margaret .. Tom died .. 1891/C521 Children … 1886/C1973 Jeynes Thomas Tom Margaret Wall .. died .. 1886/C1157 1888/C993 Jeynes Dorothy Eliza Tom Margaret Wall married .. 1910/C336 GORDON Hubert Eaton 1912/C1299 Gordon Colin Carlyle 1914/C1344 Gordon Hubert Roy 1890/C1193 Jeynes Annie Lucilla Tom Margaret Wall married .. 1913/C298 COLLINS John
deaths… 1885/C1370 Jeynes William Thomas Jeynes Harriet Hill 1923/C4444 Jeynes Eliza Harriett Thomas White Lucilla Stephens their son… 1906/C359 Jeynes George William Jeynes Eliza Harriet White
Marriages…. 1889/C215 Jeynes Annie Mary – HAMPSON Frederick Alphons children… 1890/C1187 Hampson Eileen Margaret Alphonos Annie Mary Jeynes 1893/C1239 Hampson Frank Leslie Frederick Alphonse Annie Mary Jeynes 1897/C1190 Hampson Cora Phyllis Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes 1897/C1191 Hampson Colin Percy Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes 1901/C1041 Hampson Sheila Kathleen Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes 1901/C1042 Hampson Frederick Ralph Frederick Alphonso Annie Mary Jeynes.
Marriage... 1903/C190 Jeynes Emily Rowe Pownall William Thomas children... 1904/C1113 Pownall Thomas Norman William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes 1906/C1088 Pownall Dulcie Lucilla William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes 1910/C1461 Pownall Raymond Alphonso William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes .. died .. 1924/C422 1913/C9709 Pownall Geoffrey William William Thomas Emily Rowe Jeynes
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22 Jul 2009 07:34 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Eliza Harriet Jeynes Name: Eliza Harriet Jeynes Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1903 <<<< & 1905 << State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Nanango OCCUPATION .. Indepandant Means ADDRESS .. Fitzroy St also on list .. George, Stockman @ Nanango
Name: Eliza Harriett Jeynes Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1913 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Nanango OCCUPATION .. --- ADDRESS .. Nanango
Name: Eliza Harriett Jeynes Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1919 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Nanango OCCUPATION .. home duties (h/d) ADDRESS .. Nanango
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22 Jul 2009 08:08 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Christopher Jeynes Name: Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1903 <<<<& 1905 <<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Gympie OCCUPATION .. Horse Breaker ADDRESS .. Pine Street with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d
Name: Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1913 <<<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Ipswich OCCUPATION .. Horse Trainer ADDRESS .. Edward St., Booval with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d
Name: Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1919 <<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Ipswich OCCUPATION .. Horse Trainer ADDRESS .. Raceview., Booval with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d & William Stanley, Coalminer
Name: Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Gympie OCCUPATION .. Labourer ADDRESS .. Alice Street with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d
Name: Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1936 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Kilkivan OCCUPATION .. Labourer ADDRESS .. Glastonbury with Mary Annie Frederica, h/d also... @ Teresa Vale Glastonburt Charles Cyril, Dairyman & @ Upper Glastonbury, via Gympie William Stanley, Timber Cutter.
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Alan Christopher Jeynes Name: Alan Christopher Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Rosewood OCCUPATION .. Farmer ADDRESS .. Ebenezer with Ada Harriett, h/d
Name: Ada Harriett Jeynes Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1919 <<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Ipswich OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Edward St., Booval
Name: Ada Harriett Jeynes Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1936 <<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Ipswich OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Dudleigh St., Booval
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22 Jul 2009 08:29 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Edwin Oliver Jeynes Name: Edwin Oliver Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 <<< & 1936 <<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Goodna OCCUPATION .. Miner ADDRESS .. Phebey's, Raceview, Ipswich with Esther Emma Caroline h/d
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ruth Esther Richards Name: Ruth Esther Richards Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<& 1925 <<< & 1936 State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Ipswich OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Kitchener St. with George, Mine Manager
Can not find anything on other children
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22 Jul 2009 10:40 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Frank William Jeynes Name: Frank William Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1903 <<<< & 1905 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Gayndah OCCUPATION .. Mail Contractor ADDRESS .. Capper St With Jessie, h/d
Name: Frank William Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1913 <<<& 1919 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Eidsvold OCCUPATION .. Scalper ADDRESS .. Golden Spur St., Eidsvold With Jessie, h/d
Name: Frank William Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 <<<<& 1930 State: Queensland District: Capricornia Subdistrict: Eidsvold OCCUPATION .. Scalper ADDRESS .. Golden Spur St., Eidsvold With Jessie, h/d also @ Mt Rose St, Frank Edgar Alfred, Stockman & ?? Charles Pitt, Mahoon, Cania, Labourer ??
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Frank Edgar Alfred Jeynes Name: Frank Edgar Alfred Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1936 <<<< State: Queensland District: Capricornia Subdistrict: Eidsvold OCCUPATION .. Stockman ADDRESS .. Monto, Upper Burnett with Jessie (mother), h/d also @ Monto...( siblings) Adelaide Ruby, h/d Arthur Steven, labourer & George Harold, Farmer
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22 Jul 2009 10:48 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Walter William Winton Jeynes Name: Walter William Winton Jeynes Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1925 State: Queensland District: Herbert Subdistrict: Cairns OCCUPATION .. cpntr (Carpenter) ADDRESS .. St Margaret's Bdg. Hse (Boarding House), Lake St.
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22 Jul 2009 11:17 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Pressey Name: Jessie Marjorie Elizabeth Pressey Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1930 <<< & 1936 State: Queensland District: Capricornia Subdistrict: Musgrave OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Avondale with Frederick, Labourer & ? Frederick jun., Bingera Plantation, labourer ?
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22 Jul 2009 11:25 |
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ina Maud Henry Name: Ina Maud Henry Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1936 State: Queensland District: Capricornia Subdistrict: Eidsvold OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Flinders St., Monto with Arthur Allan, Motor Mechanic.
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22 Jul 2009 11:56 |
For interest...
Tom Jeynes married Margaret Wall in 1884. They had 3 children 1886- 1890 then Tom died in 1891
Margaret re-married... 1897/C244 Connolly Virgil Bernard Jeynes Margaret children.... 1898/C1203 Connolly John Bernard Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall 1903/C901 Connolly Harry Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall 1899/C1270 Connolly Mona Kathleen Virgil Bernard Margaret Wall
Virgin was a Licensed Victualler at, Royal Hotel Gayndah in 1913 & 1919. In 1925 & 1936 he & Margaret were living on Capper St, and no occupation is listed for Virgil.
Tom & Margarets daughters...
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Gordon Name: Dorothy Eliza Gordon Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1913 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Gayndah OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Barlyne, Gayndah with Hubert Eaton, Bailiff
death... 1919/C3437 Gordon Hubert Eaton Henry Gordon Charlotta Eaton
re-marry... 1921/C627 Redmond John Joseph Murray Gordon Dorothy Eliza
ustralian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Redmond Name: Dorothy Eliza Redmond Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1925 <<<< State: Queensland District: Wide Bay Subdistrict: Gayndah OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. North Gayndah
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Dorothy Eliza Redmond Name: Dorothy Eliza Redmond Gender: Female Electoral Year: 1936 <<<< State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Beaudesert OCCUPATION .. h/d ADDRESS .. Kooralbyn, Beaudesert with John Joseph Murray, Grazier
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Colin Carlyle Gordon Name: Colin Carlyle Gordon Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1936 State: Queensland District: Moreton Subdistrict: Beaudesert OCCUPATION .. Grazier ADDRESS .. Kooralbyn, Beaudesert
Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Hubert Roy Gordon Name: Hubert Roy Gordon Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1936 State: Queensland District: Lilley Subdistrict: Windsor OCCUPATION .. Clerk ADDRESS .. 96 Dickson St., Wooloowin
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