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harbour

harbour Report 24 Jun 2009 04:32

Searching for information Edward Bernard Drury Green born 1809 Raffrilan County Down Ireland died 1861 England
His wife Eliza nee Barham born 1811 Kent parents Samuel and Caroline Barham also a sister Ann Barham born 1816 Kent
they had 3 sons Edward Bernard Samuel Green born Sydney 1832
William Barham Green born Australia
Herbert Ernest Barham Green born Kensington Middlesex born 1855
Already have some infomation from 1861 and 1881 and 1891census
I am helping a friend out who would like to know about his ancestors
regards
Karen

Susan

Susan Report 24 Jun 2009 05:12

1861 England Census
about Edward B Green
Name: Edward B Green
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Hove
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Steyning
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
Edward B Green 52
Eliza Green 49
William B Green 8 born Melbourne Australia 1853<<<<<<<<
Eliza Peters 39
Herbert E B Green 6 born Middlesex 1855 <<<<<<<
Jane Crook 28
Elizabeth Waldron 20
Walter Dudman 17


For Ref is this the family

harbour

harbour Report 24 Jun 2009 05:16

Yes it is the family

Susan

Susan Report 24 Jun 2009 05:30

Hi Sorry
Just noticed he was in OZ in 1832 so could not be in Ireland so I will delete that info so not to confuse.
The family must have returned to the UK between 1853 and 1855.
Sue

Susan

Susan Report 24 Jun 2009 06:39

1881 England Census
about Herbert Ernest Green
Name: Herbert Ernest Green
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Elizabeth Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Farnham Royal
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address: Beech Field House
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Private Gentleman

Registration district: Eton
Herbert Ernest Green 26
Harriet Elizabeth Alice Green 24
Emma Cook 31
Jane Bates 25
Sarah Elizabeth Thomas 20


Possible family for Herbert

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 24 Jun 2009 07:51

1871 census

William Green
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Australia
Civil parish: Stone
Ecclesiastical parish: Stone St John
Town: Stone
County/Island: Buckinghamshire

Disability: View image
Registration district: Aylesbury
Sub-registration district: Aylesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2


Herbert is also a pupil at the same address which is just Vicarage.

Christine

Susan

Susan Report 24 Jun 2009 08:07

1891 England Census
about William B Green
Name: William B Green
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marion
Gender: Male
Where born: Victoria; Melborne, Australia

Civil parish: Barkway
Ecclesiastical parish: Barkway
Town: Newsells
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Royston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William B Green 38
Marion Green 37
Helen M Green 13
Lilian J Green 11
Edward W Green 9
Roger D Green 6
Helen L Gregory 27
Thomas E Nail 35
Louisa Crawley 81
Hannah Cooper 71
Mary A King 41
Emily Horde 30
Sarah White 33
Ada M Oliver 26
Elizabeth R Clarke 17
Ellen L Cutten 17
Caroline M Whyman 19
Clara Green 31
Winifred L C Green 2
Irene C Green 0
Charlotte Monce 11

This looks like William with his family and workers 1891

Susan

Susan Report 24 Jun 2009 08:09

1881 England Census
about William Green
Name: William Green
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marian
Gender: Male
Where born: Melbourne, Australia

Civil parish: Sarratt
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: Sarratt (Great Sarratt Hall)
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Owner Of Freehold Property Farmer Of About 300 Acres Employing 8 Men 2 Boys

Registration district: Watford
Sub-registration district: Rickmansworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Green 28
Marian Green 27
Helen Green 3
Lilian Green 1
Bernard Green
Mercy King 31 Nurse
Elizabeth Clark 17 Nurse
Eliza Shipton 29 Parlormaid
Annie Cousins 27 Cook


Same family 1881 .

Sorry but I can't find for sure ,Elizabeth or Edward after the 1861 census,have you found them and where.Sue

harbour

harbour Report 24 Jun 2009 11:26

thanks for all your help
regards Kren

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 26 Jun 2009 09:47

William's birth:

Surname: GREEN
Given Names: William Barham
Event: B
Father: Edward B
Mother: Eliza
Birth Place: ST K
Year: 1852
Reg Number: 31735
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: CHRIST CHURCH, ST KILDA
Fiche: 456

also

Surname: GREEN
Given Names: Eliza Barham
Event: B
Father: Edward Bernard
Mother: Eliza
Birth Place: ST KILDA
Year: 1849
Reg Number: 16421
Denomination: Church of England
Parish: ST JAMES, MELBOURNE
Fiche: 292

Eliza Barham GREEN married Douglas John ATKINSON in 1887 in Victoria (reg 2618). He was born in Ireland. They had 2 daughters, Pansy Margaret in 1888 in St Kilda (reg 15974) and Harriet Amelia Douglas in 1892 in St Kilda. Neither of the daughters married; Pansy died in 1965 aged 76 and Harriet in 1878 aged 85. Douglas died in 1915 aged 74 (reg 8896), son of John ATKINSON and Hart DOUGLAS. Eliza died in 1941 aged 86 in Elwood (reg 3608).

Edward Bernard & Lucy Ann Eliza LEE married in Parramatta NSW in 1860 (reg 2299). They had 8 children in Morpeth NSW 1861-73. There are another couple of chn born to this couple in Malvern, Victoria - Herbert Hy 1887 and Constance Vic Barham in 1889. Edward Bernard Samuel GREEN died in 1925 aged 92 in Brighton Victoria (reg 515).

Lucy died in 1927 in Brighton Vic aged 86, dau of Edward Benjamin & Lucy Ann LEE (reg 516). Lucy was born in NSW in 1841; her parents were very early in the colony (from at least 1830).

At least nine of Edward & Lucy's chn died in Victoria. Let me know if you would like details.

Looks like Edward & Eliza had another son named Frederick in NSW, born in 1834; and maybe Henry in 1843? See www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

harbour

harbour Report 4 Aug 2015 10:09

New search
I am searching for information on Eliza Green nee Barham. Parents Samuel and Caroline. She was born Kent 1811. I have the information going forward, but dont have anything else on Samuel and Caroline or their families? Or the Barham families from the Kent area
thanks Karen

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 12:55

Where in Kent was this woman born?

How did you find out the mother's first name?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 12:56

OK......found the baptism, which gives location info

First name(s) ELIZA
Last name BARHAM
Birth year 1811
Baptism year 1811
Baptism day 28
Baptism month APR
Place COBHAM
County Kent
Country England
Mother's name Caroline
Father's name Samuel
Source St.Mary Magdalene Cobham 1760-1851 baptisms

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 12:59

First name(s) ANN
Last name BARHAM
Birth year 1817
Baptism year 1817
Baptism day 14
Baptism month FEB
Place ROCHESTER
County Kent
Country England
Mother's name Caroline
Father's name Samuel
Source St.Margarets Rochester 1813-1851 baptisms

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 13:00

First name(s) FRANCES
Last name BARHAM
Birth year 1813
Baptism year 1813
Baptism day 25
Baptism month JUL
Place COBHAM
County Kent
Country England
Mother's name Caroline
Father's name Samuel
Source St.Mary Magdalene Cobham 1760-1851 baptisms

Probably died in 1819

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 13:08

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Barham
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1804
Baptism date 04 Mar 1804
Residence Rochester, Kent, England
Place -
County Kent
Country England
Father's first name(s) Samuel
Father's last name Barham
Mother's first name(s) Caroline
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 4 Aug 2015 13:09

????

First name(s) CAROLINE
Last name(s) BARHAM
Age at death 61
Birth year 1771
Birth date 1771
Death year 1832
Burial year 1832
Burial day 13
Burial month Nov
Residence 26 Queen Ann Street, St Marylebone, Middlesex
Parish Rainham
County Kent
Country England
Notes Dame
Record set East Kent Burial Index

harbour

harbour Report 4 Aug 2015 23:34

Thankyou for your help
regards Karen

harbour

harbour Report 6 Aug 2015 09:56

can anyone help with a marriage between Caroline and Samuel?

I have discounted the Caroline Barham resident Middlesex, above posting)

thanks Karen

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Aug 2015 10:48

Relating to the baptisms posted above.

You can search for yourself for free on http://www.freereg.org.uk/

The transcriptions might add more details than those found elsewhere eg for Samuel bap 1804


County Kent
Place Rochester
Church name St Margaret of Antioch
Register type
Baptism date 04 Mar 1804
Birth date 13 Jan 1804
Person forename Samuel
Father forename Samuel
Father surname BARHAM
Mother forename Caroline

For events that are transcribed but took place in the diocese of Rochester, you can normally find the acutal images on http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/
Select Parish Registers online from the column on the left, scroll down to the named church. After that find the record set/year range the event fell into. You will have to page through the images to find the one(s) you want, but it is sooo satisfying! Once found, right-click and 'Save Image As'

The image for Samuel's baptism is here http://tiny.cc/mvbi1x