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Hi Christine
Will:
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1157290&jump=6235658#6235658

http://www.geocities.com/pomerytwig/Willsfivefive.html

I found this
"POMEROY Arthur Shubrook of Reading, agent for the Great Western Railway Co. died 25 Dec 1892. Proved Oxford 28 Jan to Cecilia Anna Pomeroy, widow. Estate £505"
With this inheritance, I don't see their 9 year old daughter Ethel ending up in an Orphanage ?
Martin

Hi Team
In case you're not too tired of me and my problems, you may like to have a look at this one.
http://genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1157290

This is Arthur Shubrook Pomeroy's father William. I have a complete set of Wedding, Birth and Census documents for him and his family in Taunton and Langport, Somerset. What I can't find is any record of his birth in about 1811 in Taunton. It probably exists somewhere in Parish Records but I haven't been able to find anything yet.
Thanks in anticipation
Martin

Thanks Jan
I,ve looked at findmypast and confirmed the following
POMEROY RA 1872 M 1896 Southampton South Africa Cape
I'm certain that this is Ralph Allan Pomeroy emigrating to Cape Town. His date of birth was Dec 1878. He may have “adjusted” it to make himself appear older as he was in fact only about 17 at the time.

POMEROY A Unknown M 1908 Southampton South Africa Cape
I'm almost certain that this is Archibald William Pomeroy emigrating to Cape Town. His date of birth was 1880. He was about 28 at the time. I'm not sure whether he married Irene in Cape Town or UK but their son Arthur Shubrook was born in about 1909. It all seems to fit.

POMEROY RA 1879 M 1939 Southampton South Africa Cape
POMEROY 1880 F 1939 Southampton South Africa Cape
These are Ralph Allan and his wife Maud returning from a round the world trip in 1939. They visited family in UK at the time
Thanks a lot
Martin

Ralph looks like it s registered R A Pomeroy
POMEROY R A 1872 M 1896 Southampton South Africa Cape
might be worth you having a look on the site to see what you think

Also A Pomeroy
birth year unknown left Southampton 1908 to Cape Town
could have been Archibald

same site didn't find any more Ethel's wonder if she married and then went out?
name First
name Year of
birth Departure Destination
country Destination
port Transcript Image
Sex year port
POMEROY Ethel Adult F 1905 Liverpool Canada Quebec VIEW VIEW
POMEROY Ethel M 1885 F 1924 Southampton New Zealand Wellington VIEW VIEW

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
I haven't got credits or sub for this site but on a search there is this one
Last
name First
name Year of
birth Departure Destination
country Destination
port Transcript Image
Sex year port
POMEROY Archibald W 1880 M 1938 Liverpool South Africa Cape VIEW VIEW

Helen and Jan And Christine and all who joined in the search.
You all did a magnificent job. I have one more question which was prompted by Christine's Shipping Records.
Ralph Allan Pomeroy went fom UK to Cape Town in about 1896.
If anyone has access to Shipping Records for this time I'd appreciate finding out more details of of his voyage. Also any other Pomeroy's who might have travelled to SA btween 1895 and 1914. This might tie up details about Archibald and Ethel.
Thanks again
Martin

I have enjoyed working on this puzzle with you as well Helen. Made a good team didn't we.

You're right, it is possible that Tryphena registered the birth after Cecilia returned home, and that, as informant her information was confused with the mother's information.

However, just a thought- it is also still possible that Tryphena was the mother of Ralph- (looking at the ages of Tryphena's children, it is quite possible that she could have given birth in between Alan Thomas and Gertrude Milly.) However, if this is correct, it doesn't seem that she was mother of Archibald.

Martin, if you do find out anything further- either through Cecilia and Arthur's marriage or through Archibald's birth certificate, I would be interested to know.- I've quite enjoyed working with Jan to try and sort this out- move over Miss Marples!!!

Helen

I don't know where the Cardiff Pomeroy family fits in.

The Informant on the Birth Certificate is "C. T. Pomeroy Mother 83 Broad St". The birth was reported about 5 weeks after the actual Date of Birth. It's possible that Cecilia had returned to her home in Wales with her baby and her Sister-in-Law Tryphena (Dyke) Roberts had reported the birth and put some confused and inaccurate information on the Certificate.
Thanks for your interest
Martin

Martin

Who was the informant on the birth cert?

1911
HOUSEHOLD POMEROY URSULA F 1880 31 Cardiff Glamorganshire
IN SAME house?
POMEROY ANNA F 1839 72 Cardiff Glamorganshire
POMEROY RALPH M 1881 30 Cardiff Glamorganshire

Ralph /Ursula marriage?
Marriages Jun 1908
Evans Ursula Mabel Cardiff 11a 673 *********
LEGGATT William Henry Cardiff 11a 673
POMEROY Ralph Carr[eo]R Cardiff 11a 673 *****or
Pomeroy Ralph Carro R Cardiff 11a 673 ***** it looks like this one on the index page to me
SAUNDERS Emily Catherine Cardiff 11a 673

Glad to see things have "moved on" and some! of the puzzle seems to have been sorted

Yes, I've previously passed on info to the Pomeroy Family History Group.
Arthur and Cecilia were married in Oct – Dec 1877. Their son Ralph Allan Pomeroy was born on 26 Dec 1878. About 12 months later -sounds about right.
It seems that for some obscure reason Cecilia added her sister-in-law's name "Tryphena, formerly Dyke" and omitted her own second name "Anna" from the entry on his Birth Cert. Very Strange. I guess the Birth Certs of Archibald and Ethel (the right one) might answer the question once and for all.
You guys have certainly come up trumps on the Dyke and Roberts angles. Thanks again.

Is it possible that Tryphena had a baby for Cecilia and Arthur? Cecilia and Ralph were married two years before Ralph was born- perhaps they couldn't have children?

I wonder what mother's name is listed on Archibald and Ethel's birth certificates??

Pomeroy is registered with the guild of one name studies

www.pomeroyfamilyhistory.com

Christine
Thanks for the Shipping info. I don't know about Ralph (Engineer) and Ursula Pomeroy, but "Archibald W POMEROY" is definitely Arthur and Cecilia's son and "Mrs Irene M POMEROY" is his wife. I only knew of her as "Rene". Their son Arthur Shubrook Pomeroy (named after his grandfather) as far as I know, was born in Cape Town in about 1909. So Archibald (and Irene?- I don't know her Maiden name or where they were married) must have emigrated to SA before 1909. The trip in 1938 was possibly to visit his mother, Cecilia.
Thanks -- Martin

Now that is interesting! Arthur and Cecelia's son Ralph Allan was born at 83 Broad St, St Mary's, Reading (on the Birth Cert) on 26 Dec 1878. In the 1881 Census they were living at Haverfordwest St Thomas, Pembroke where Arthur was a Station Master.
I haven't quite worked out the significance of this, but in 1878 the house must have been owned by Alan Roberts and Cecelia possibly went there to have her baby.
Needs a bit of thought.
Thanks -- Martin

Working on the principle that names were often handed down throgh generations and this is a more unusual one I thought this may be worth a look

1841 Address: Tedsmore, Felton, West, Tedsmore
ROBERTS, Peter M 30 1811
ROBERTS, Tryphena F 40 1801 Shropshire
ROBERTS, Edward M 10 1831 Shropshire
ROBERTS, Jonathan M 8 1833 Shropshire
ROBERTS, Thomas M 5 1836 Shropshire
ROBERTS, Richard M 3 1838 Shropshire
ROBERTS, William M 0 (9 months) 1841 Shropshire
PRICE, Jane F 22 1819
MORRIS, Ann F 14 1827
HUMPHRYS, Thomas M 40 1801 Shropshire
JOHNSON, William M 22 1819 Shropshire
PRITCHARD, William M 21 1820 Shropshire
WILLISON, Richard M 50 1791 Shropshire

This is in the registration district of Oswestry

I do not have 1851 to follow this through