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I am struggling to put together the children of this family unit
Father Henry Edward Stevens YOB 1868 Northfleet Kent (2a 401?) Bapt 19.4.1868 St George Gravesend Kent. Occ. Cooper
Mother Emma unknown B 1867 Northfleet
1891 Census shows 2 children George & Arthur Unknown to living relatives? Bn Northfleet located 8 Stifford Terrace Grays Essex. Not mentioned after this census? Can not find any deaths?
1901 Census Loc.Albany Rd Grays . transcript shows, children Ernest 1896 Frederick 1894 Harriet 1893, Hellen 1899 John 1900 all confirmed by living rltvs. (Spelt Stephens on this Census).
Walter (My Grandfather) born 1902 Orsett
William Can not find - Emigrated to Australia had a large family?
Harriett married Mr Sampson went to Canada?
Hellen married Leonard Connor went to canada ?
One went to London in Canada the other Southampton in Canada?
Any help on George, Arthur Harriet Hellen & William would be appreciated. Sorry it is a Big Ask.
Regards Kay

1871 England Census
Name: Henry Stevens
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Northfleet, Kent, England
Civil parish: Northfleet
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Perry Street
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 315
Household Members: Name Age
John Stevens 26
Emma Stevens 21
Louisa Stevens 6
******************Henry Stevens 3


1881 England Census
Name: Henry Stevens
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Northfleet, Kent, England

Civil parish: Northfleet
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 4 Garden Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Stevens 37
Emma Stevens 32
Louisa Stevens 15
************************Henry Stevens 13
Emily Stevens 9
Arthur Stevens 6
George Stevens 5


1891 England Census
Name: Henry Stevens
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Perry St Northfleet, Kent, England

Civil parish: Grays Thurrock
Ecclesiastical parish: Grays Thurrock
Town: Grays Thurrock
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Orsett
Sub-registration district: Grays
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Stevens 23
Emma Stevens 24
George Stevens 7 weeks
Arthur Stevens 7 weeks



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Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
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STEVENS Arthur John Strood 2a 564
STEVENS George Edward Strood 2a 564

Deaths Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Stevens Arthur John 1 Orsett 4a 205
Stevens George Edward 1 Orsett 4a 204


Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
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STEVENS Henry Edward N.Aylesford 2a 401

Possibly

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Marden Emma Ann Strood 2a 889
STEVENS Henry Edward Strood 2a 889

Wow, thank you so much Choccy, Ive been working on this for months and you have taken minutes to find what I couldnt, I wish i knew your resources.
I am releived to know what happened to George & Arthur, (shame).
+ Emma's last name wow
Thanks again for your help, really really appreciate it
Regards Kay

for reference

1901 England Census
Name: Mary Stephans
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma
Where born: Northfleet, Kent, England

Civil parish: Grays Thurrock
Ecclesiastical parish: Grays Thurrock St Peter and St Paul
Town: Grays Thurrock
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Orsett
Sub-registration district: Grays
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Stephans 33 (READS HENRY ON ORIGINAL!)
Emma Stephans 35
Harriet Stephans 8
Frederick Stephans 1
Ernest Stephans 5
Hellen Stevens 3
John Stevens 10 months
Charles Smith 23
Charles Stiff 27

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Sampson Arthur E Stevens Orsett 4a 637
Stevens Harriette E Sampson Orsett 4a 637

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
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Conner Leonard F P Stevens Orsett 4a 1322
Stevens Helen R Conner Orsett 4a 1322

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Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
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STEVENS William Frederick Orsett 4a 652

Child of Harriette -

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Sampson Kathleen H Stevens Orsett 4a 1291


Any idea when they might have gone to Canada?

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Arthur E Sampson
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Birth country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Jun 1925
Vessel: Regina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14716

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Harriet Sampson
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birth country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Jun 1925
Vessel: Regina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14716

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Kathleen Sampson
Gender: Female
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Birth country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Jun 1925
Vessel: Regina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14716

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Leslie E Sampson
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1917
Birth country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Jun 1925
Vessel: Regina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14716

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Doreen O Sampson
Gender: Female
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1924
Birth country: England
Date of Arrival: 27 Jun 1925
Vessel: Regina
Search Ship Database: View the 'Regina' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14716

Choccy you are a star.
The only time my living relatives (their old) can come up with for their departure for Canada is possibly in the 1920's but not guaranteed
New info just obtained
Harriett Stevens - Sampson had son Les (leslie) who was in army in Canada, the scottish regiment, he was a japanese prisoner of war.
Regards
Kay

I am over the moon, Thank you so much for all your help, you are answering before I can answer you. My old auntie is a very happy lady to know this as she has thought of them for many years, you have also triggered her memory, so I thank you for that aswell.

Can't find Leonard and Helen going to Canada together, but found this -

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Helen Conner
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Date of Arrival: 5 Oct 1919
Vessel: Tunisian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Tunisian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England
Roll: T-14702

This would have been the same year she got married. This Helen Conner is married, but no sign of Leonard (?) so perhaps not the right one.

No luck on William unfortunately, apart from his birth registration details in 1904.

I just can't thank you enough for all your help, you have found more in a couple of hours than I have found in months Im told William had 13 children in Australia but I can not get a lead on him at all, Im sure I tried the birth you found before but it leads to a different family, I will try again incase.
I think this has sparked the memory banks with my auntie aswell so I may get some more info on him & Helen that way.
Thanks again Choccy
Kay
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Starting from:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html
one can drill down to search passenger lists at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php
The index is by ship's names and voyages, rather than passengers, and in any case only goes up to 1922.

However, one could page thru the 30 images for the Tunisian in 1919/10/05, and find Helen Connor. (Well, I presume so, but I didn't actually go thru the images.)


On a seperate matter, Canadian provinces have long closed periods on BMDs before they become public documents. (95/80/70 y in Ontario, e.g.). Just as laws governing BMDs and their registrations vary from country to country in the UK, so they vary province to province in Canada.

Kay,

Have been looking for William in Oz and came up with his 'possible' death.


Registration No. 17264/1955
STEVENS FREDERICK WILLIAM
Father's given name HENRY
Mother's given name EMMA
District AUBURN B
Year of death 1955

This is the site I found him on. I know it says Frederick William, but with a father called Henry and a mother called Emma, it is in all probability him. I am now going to look elsewhere -


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

This is the 1911 census. No sign of a William, but there is a Henry. I found a William Frederick, born Tilbury Docks, living with his widowed mother and brother.

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
STEVENS, HENRY HEAD MARRIED M 43 COOPER KENT NORTHFLEET
STEVENS, EMMA WIFE MARRIED 20 F 44 NORTHFLEET KENT
STEVENS, HARRIETT DAUGHTER SINGLE F 18 GRAYS ESSEX
STEVENS, ERNEST SON SINGLE M 14 APRENTICE GRAYS ESSEX
STEVENS, ELLEN DAUGHTER SINGLE F 12 SCHOOL GRAYS ESSEX
STEVENS, JOHN SON SINGLE M 10 SCHOOL GRAYS ESSEX
STEVENS, WALTER SON SINGLE M 9 GRAYS ESSEX
STEVENS, HENRY SON M 6 GRAYS ESSEX
STIFF, GEORGE BOARDER SINGLE M 36 SHIP'S FIREMAN GRAVESEND KENT
STIFF, GEORGE BOARDER WIDOWER M 31 LABOURER DOCK NORTHFLEET KENT
STIFF, GEORGE BOARDER M 10 GRAYS ESSEX
STIFF, ERNEST BOARDER M 9 GRAYS ESSEX
SMITH, CHARLIE BOARDER SINGLE M 33 SHIP'S FIREMAN GREENWICH EKNT
STEVENS WALTER (RG14PN9972 RG78PN524 RD192 SD1 ED21 SN257)
Address 12 ALBANY ROAD GRAYS County Essex
District Orsett Subdistrict Grays
Enumeration District 21 Parish Grays Thurrock

Found Henry's birth -

Births Dec 1904 (>99%)
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Stevens Henry William Orsett 4a 643

Think the posting re Frederick dying in Oz is not him, even with the coincidence of parents' names (!)

Found him (I think) going to Oz

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: W H Stevens
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Age: 17
Port of Departure: Melbourne
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 13 Feb 1922
Vessel Name: Largs Bay
Origin Location: Grayes

(original location referring to Grays in Essex I would think)

I cant beleive how much work you have put in to this, I am so grateful, Yes I think you HAVE found William or should I say Henry now, it certainly all fits.
I actually think you have FOUND FREDERICK aswell, he was a mystery, but it was never known that he went to Oz, no-one knew where he went, word was they thought he must have died, so i think you have uncovered him in Oz aswell!! inadvertantly solved a mystery there, Wow.
This family have been so hard, They were all called different names ie Harriet was Cissy, Helen or Ellen was Nellie, John was Jack etc etc, so in all it has baffled me for months, I cant thank you enough for putting these peices together for me,