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4 Jun 2009 00:38 |
hi im trying to find information on any decendants of joseph Henry kirby 1863 and mary ann mulveigh from lancashire. they had at least 4 sons and 2 daughters between 1885 and 1905, May, annie, Joseph, francis, john, james, henry, and possibly a Eunice and a kath/cath after 1901 cencus..any help for a newbie most appreciated. thanks brian
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4 Jun 2009 01:14 |
first here is their marriage. I found it on freeBMD google it
Marriages Mar 1883 Kirby Joseph Henry Barton I. 8c 730 MULVEIGH Mary Ann Barton I. 8c 730
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4 Jun 2009 01:31 |
poss brother?
Deaths Sep 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulveigh John 24 Barton I. 8c 375
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4 Jun 2009 01:37 |
joseph was not born lancashire
1901 Address: 12, Egerton Street, Withington KIRBY, Joseph Head Married M 38 1863 Bricklayer's Labourer Lowestoft Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Mary A Wife Married F 39 1862 Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Henry Son Single M 16 1885 Groom Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, James Son Single M 14 1887 Grocers Apprentice Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Francis Son Single M 8 1893 At School Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Joseph Son Single M 6 1895 At School Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Annie Daughter Single F 4 1897 Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, May Daughter Single F 2 1899 Fallowfield Lancashire VIEW DEARNLY, Joseph Lodger Single M 64 1837 Drainer's Labourer Ashton Under Lyne Lancashire
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4 Jun 2009 01:39 |
Births Mar 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KIRBY Joseph Henry Kings L 4b 387
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4 Jun 2009 01:42 |
1891 Address: 27, Granville Street, Salford KIRBY, Joseph Head Married M 27 1864 Warehouseman Lynn Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Mary A Wife Married F 29 1862 Patricroft Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Henry Son M 6 1885 Salford Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, James E Son M 4 1887 Salford Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, John Son M 1 1890 Salford Lancashire
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4 Jun 2009 01:45 |
i think this is him 1881
Address: 5, Rochester Avenue, Salford KIRBY, Edward Head Married M 49 1832 Joiner So Wooton Norfolk KIRBY, Eliza Wife Married F 50 1831 Wells Norfolk KIRBY, Thomas Son Single M 27 1854 Joiner London, London Middlesex KIRBY, Joseph Son Single M 18 1863 Carter (Unemp) Kings Lynn Norfolk KIRBY, Margaret Daughter Single F 14 1867 Dom Servant Lowestoft Suffolk KIRBY, Clara Daughter Single F 11 1870 Scholar Lowestoft Suffolk KIRBY, Florence Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Lowestoft Suffolk KIRBY, Kate Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Lowestoft Suffolk
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4 Jun 2009 01:48 |
or this one
1881 Address: "sarah Ann", Chirton RENANT, Edward Married M 56 1825 Master (Seaman) Lynn Norfolk GIBBS, William E Married M 31 1850 Mate (Seaman) Lynn Norfolk JOHNSON, John Married M 57 1824 Able Seaman (Seaman) Lynn Norfolk MESSNELL, William Married M 45 1836 Able Seaman (Seaman) Plymouth Devon KIRBY, Joseph Single M 19 1862 Ordinary Seaman (Seaman) Lynn Norfolk
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4 Jun 2009 01:50 |
poss 1871 Address: Sedgeford Lane, St Margaret, Kings Lynn KIRBY, Charles Head M 28 1843 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Mary Ann Wife F 28 1843 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Joseph Son M 8 1863 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Charles Son M 5 1866 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Lucy Daughter F 3 1868 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Eleanor Daughter F 0 1871 Norfolk
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LadyKira
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4 Jun 2009 02:02 |
there are only the two mentions of mulveigh on free bmd. not found anything on findmypast yet.
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Brian
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4 Jun 2009 02:23 |
wow thanks a million christine that was quick..its the joseph who was born in norfolk father edward and eliza, moved to salford via lowestoft.....is their any way to find out if they had any children after 1901? also how can I confirm the same joseph henry kirby remarried a elizabeth scott b1888 in 1909?
ps. I know joseph lied about his age when married he said he was 40 when he was actually 46.
thanks again for your kind response..
brian.
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4 Jun 2009 09:23 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KIRBY Joseph Henry Sunderland 10a 1203 REDFERN Benjamin Sunderland 10a 1203 SMITH Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 1203 TAYLOR Hilda May Sunderland 10a 1203
This is the marriage reference. the only sure way is to obtain the certificate.
you could check out 1911 census but you will need to get credits. there may be children from both marriages with them
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4 Jun 2009 09:26 |
births before 1911 do not mention mothers maiden name so again certificates are necessary
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4 Jun 2009 09:28 |
1871 Address: Richmond Place, Kirkley KIRBY, Edward Head M 39 1832 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Eliza Wife F 39 1832 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Francis Son M 18 1853 Yorkshire VIEW KIRBY, Thomas Son M 16 1855 Middlesex VIEW KIRBY, Charles Son M 15 1856 Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Mary Daughter F 13 1858 Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Harriet Daughter F 9 1862 Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Joseph Son M 7 1864 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Susan Daughter F 5 1866 Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Margaret Daughter F 4 1867 Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Clara Daughter F 2 1869 Suffolk
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4 Jun 2009 09:29 |
1861 Address: 43, Stevens Street, Lowestoft KIRBY, Edward Head Married M 29 1832 Joiner South Wootton Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Eliza Wife Married F 29 1832 Wells Norfolk VIEW KIRBY, Francis E Son M 8 1853 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW KIRBY, Thomas H Son M 7 1854 Scholar London Middlesex VIEW KIRBY, Charles Son M 5 1856 Scholar Lowestoft Suffolk VIEW KIRBY, Mary Eliza Daughter F 3 1858 Lowestoft Suffolk
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4 Jun 2009 21:05 |
Is this Fancis?
1881 Address: 1, Rose Place, Warrington KIRBY, Frank Head Married M 28 1853 Railway Shunter Hull Yorkshire KIRBY, Sarah Jane Wife Married F 32 1849 House Wife Cookridge Yorkshire KIRBY, Arthur Son Single M 1 1880 Salford Lancashire
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4 Jun 2009 21:07 |
looks like it
1891 Address: 4, St Marys Place, Walton On The Hill, Walton KIRBY, Francis E Head Married M 38 1853 Railway Paintsman Hull Yorkshire VIEW KIRBY, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1849 Cookridge Yorkshire VIEW KIRBY, Arthur Son M 11 1880 Salford Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Adelaide Daughter F 9 1882 Warrington Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Annie Daughter F 6 1885 Walton Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, William Son M 4 1887 Walton Lancashire
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4 Jun 2009 21:10 |
1901 Address: 16, St Marys Lane, Walton On The Hill, Liverpool KIRBY, Sarah J Head Widow F 51 1850 Cookridge Yorkshire VIEW KIRBY, Arthur Son Single M 21 1880 Foreign Wagon Brother (Railway) Salford Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Adelaide Daughter Single F 19 1882 Drapers Shop Assistant Warrington Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Annie J Daughter Single F 16 1885 Book Binders Apprentice Walton Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, William Son Single M 14 1887 Booking Clerk (Railway)
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4 Jun 2009 21:12 |
probable
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bullock Sarah York 9d 99 Kirby Francis York 9d 99
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4 Jun 2009 21:24 |
not sure about this one he is a joiner born london and living in salford but initial is wrong. I would prefer to see something to back this up or to positively eliminate other possibles.
1891 KIRBY, Thomas F Head Married M 36 1855 Joiner Pentonville London VIEW KIRBY, Mary E Wife Married F 30 1861 Manchester Lancashire VIEW KIRBY, Frederick N Son M 1 1890 Salford Lancashire
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