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Heather
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28 May 2009 20:43 |
Thanks that answers that problem - thought we had found a new relation!!!
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mgnv
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28 May 2009 20:15 |
A search of Chorley 1875-1911 gets:
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HODGKINSON Thomas BENNETT Sarah Ann St Peter, Chorley Preston C11/1/426
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HODKINSON George BENNETT Bertha St James, Chorley Preston C9/2/169
So probably Florrie belongs to the G-less HODKINSONs
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Heather
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28 May 2009 16:22 |
Been reading through all your postings and now know my Agnes Ellen belonged to Thomas Hodgkinson and Sarah Bennett (no connection with the Hodgkinson/Hall also found in Euxton). At 10.13 mgnv posted that Elizabeth died at age 21 and I can confirm this is true (as I said she died having her tonsils out). I note there is also a birth of a Florrie HODKINSON (Mothers maiden name BEnnett) but is this same family or just a typing error? If she is part of the family then no-one knew about her.
Will spend some time later looking at info. provided going back from Thomas Hodgkinson. Thanks, Heather
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Choccy
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28 May 2009 13:23 |
Forgot you had to go to the door Annie. Read your posting and thought 'I found that yesterday'.
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mgnv
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28 May 2009 11:54 |
Some URLs (like you've tons of time for surfing):
http://www.euxton.com/ http://www.euxton.com/stripa49.htm [alt search for OS coords 355500 419200 at: http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ ] There's only St Marys RC at http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/SD5519 (plus non-church pics of course) It doesn't look like there's more than a handful of RC Hodgkinson's: http://www.stmarys-euxton.com/parish_registers.htm Lewis's gazetteer (1848) at: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=445
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mgnv
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28 May 2009 10:37 |
Here's the other William (with sis=Mary Swarbrick). Choccy has posted his 1891/1901 census on page 2, and also posted the 1881 which I'm reposting with added details.
1881 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John HODGKINSON Head M Male 36 Euxton Mechanic At Cotton Mill (S&W) Elizabeth HODGKINSON Wife M Female 32 Euxton Housekeeper Mary SWARBRICK Daur Female 10 Euxton Scholar Ellen HODGKINSON Daur Female 6 Euxton Scholar Alice HODGKINSON Daur Female 5 Euxton Scholar James HODGKINSON Son Male 2 Euxton Source Information: Dwelling 13 Dawber Lane Census Place Euxton, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1342009 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4215 / 73 Page Number 11
Marriage: 11 Nov 1876 Parish Church, Euxton, Lancashire, England John Hodgkinson - 31 Mechanic Bachelor of Euxton Elizabeth Swarbrick - 29 Spinster of Euxton Groom's Father: George Hodgkinson, Miller Bride's Father: Edward Swarbrick, Groom Witness: Adam Bennett; Elizabeth Hodgkinson Married by Banns Register: Marriages 1838 - 1900, Page 34, Entry 68 Source: PR2902/6
Baptism: 25 Mar 1888 Parish Curch, Euxton, Lancashire, England William Hodgkinson - son of John Hodgkinson & Elizabeth Born: 16 Feb 1888 Abode: Euxton Occupation: Mechanic Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 133, Entry 1063 Source: LDS Film 1526079
Baptism: 28 Jun 1885 Parish Curch, Euxton, Lancashire, England Edward Hodgkinson - son of John Hodgkinson & Elizabeth Born: 12 Jun 1885 Abode: Euxton Occupation: Mechanic Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 131, Entry 1045 Source: LDS Film 1526079
Baptism: 29 May 1881 Parish Curch, Euxton, Lancashire, England Ann Hodgkinson - daughter of John Hodgkinson & Elizabeth Born: 18 April 1881 Abode: Euxton Occupation: Mechanic Notes: Incumbent Baptised by: J.Williams Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 126, Entry 1001 Source: LDS Film 1526079
Baptism: 2 Jun 1878 Parish Curch, Euxton, Lancashire, England James Hodgkinson - son of John Hodgkinson & Elizabeth Abode: Euxton Occupation: Mechanic Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 119, Entry 947 Source: LDS Film 1526079
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Heather
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28 May 2009 10:31 |
Just logged in to see what's happening - sorry I am going shopping with my gaughter today!! Glad to see you are all still interested with my family tree. I will look at all your postings later and see what you have found. All I can confirm is that you have found my Agnes Ellen and William Hodgkinson. Their parents were Thomas Hodgkinson and Sarah a Bennett married in 1887. (I notice you have gone back even further and I promise to get back to you later in the day
Regards, Heather
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mgnv
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28 May 2009 10:13 |
As Annie said re the army records, there were two Williams knocking around, both born abt 1888, although there only seems to be a rego for Wm, (viz s/o Thomas + Sarah Ann Hodgkinson MS Bennett). We know he's Agnes Ellen's bro from the 1911 census. Here's Thos in 1881 (at same addy):
1881 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability William HODGKINSON Head M Male 37 Euxton, Lancashire, England Engine Tenter Cotton Mill (Driver) Ellen HODGKINSON Wife M Female 37 Euxton, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Thomas HODGKINSON Son U Male 16 Euxton, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver James HODGKINSON Son U Male 13 Euxton, Lancashire, England Scholar Source Information: Dwelling No 27 Harpers Lane Census Place Chorley, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1342010 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4218 / 125 Page Number 25
and we can find Jas's bp (i.e., our Wm's uncle) at: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexp.html
Baptism: 17 Nov 1867 Parish Curch, Euxton, Lancashire, England James Hodgkinson - son of William Hodgkinson & Ellen Abode: Euxton Occupation: Collier Register: Baptisms 1841 - 1900, Page 91, Entry 728 Source: LDS Film 1526079
Here's the HODGKINSON + BENNETT births at: http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON Elizabeth Ann Chorley Preston BENNETT CHO/72/89
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON William Chorley Preston BENNETT CHO/75/4
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON Agnes Ellen Chorley Preston BENNETT CHO/86/23
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1904 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODKINSON Florrie Chorley Preston BENNETT CHO/104/71
This seems to be the only Elizabeth Ann, but there's plenty of plain Elizabeth's.
Deaths Dec 1908 (>99%) Hodgkinson Elizabeth Ann 2_ Chorley 8e 355 [I read a=21 - it's not very clear on FreeBMD, but it's hard to see that it could be owt else]
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference HODGKINSON Elizabeth Ann 21 Chorley Preston CHO/70/97
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Choccy
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28 May 2009 09:11 |
That was the one I posted at 15.14 yesterday.
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mgnv
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28 May 2009 02:00 |
Firstly, re Annie G's very early posts There's no entry like her Agnes Ellen in the GRO index image at FreeBMD, and also Preston doesn't have page #s in the 1000s that I can see - quite odd.
This looks to be her 1901 census family, although Eliz is missing.
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HODGKINSON William HALL Mary Preston Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston PRESTON/100/31
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON James St Peters Preston HALL ST.P/50/4
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON Agnes Ellen St Peters Preston HALL ST.P/53/99
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON Mary St Peters Preston HALL ST.P/71/17 HODGKINSON William St Peters Preston HALL ST.P/71/17
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1911 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference HODGKINSON Annie North Preston Preston HALL NP/22/10 HODGKINSON Winifred North Preston Preston HALL NP/22/10
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Heather
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27 May 2009 21:47 |
Ooh you've done it again Choccy!!!! That is my Mary Francis as I know she was from Hoscar Moss and its such a tiny place it has to be her. I know that when she married William his sister, Agnes, was rather unkind to her as she felt William had married beneath him (even though Williams family was working class). Glad to say that in later life Agnes and Frances were good friends so alls well that ends well. Thanks again
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Choccy
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27 May 2009 21:43 |
1901 England Census Name: Mary F Kellett Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Catherine Gender: Female Where born: Hoscar Mos, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Lathom Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Lathom ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 166 Household Members: Name Age William Kellett 35 Catherine Kellett 35 Mary F Kellett 3 Margaret A Kellett 1
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lancashireAnn
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27 May 2009 21:26 |
can only find 1 Mary Frances on freebmd and this is the lancs bmd version
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1898
KELLETT Mary Frances born at Lathom
Lathom not too far from Burscough
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Choccy
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27 May 2009 20:43 |
Thanks for the update Heather, particularly the tonsils operation!! How dreadful.
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Heather
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27 May 2009 20:14 |
Just to update you all. The 1911 entry for William and Agnes is my family. Spoke to a family friend who can confirm they lived at that address. Just for your interest there was a daughter, Elizabeth A Hodgkinson who died whilst having her tonsils out on the kitchen table!!!!!! How terrible that must have been. As for William Hodgkinson still cannot confirm his first marriage to Ann Ashcroft but somewhere down the line the name Hilda rang a bell with my friend so from your findings she died at about 6 months old so quite possibly not talked about. Mary Francis Kellett who married William in 1925 came from Burscough (Lancashire) but might not have been born there. Seems her parents were tinkers or something like that.
Well, thanks once again for your help, Heather
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Choccy
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27 May 2009 16:35 |
Thanks for that Ann and Annie. Got there in the end. Keep us posted Heather.
My OH will have to have something from the freezer!
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Heather
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27 May 2009 16:33 |
Oooh definitely proves she was Kathleen Eva!!!!!!! Yes she married Fred GILLETT. They had no children sadly and neither did her sister Dorothy.
I am so pleased at what has turned up today - it confirms one or two things I already knew but was not sure of and definitely found out somethings new. What a great afternoon!!!
Heather
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lancashireAnn
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27 May 2009 16:27 |
I think this proves that Eva was Kathleen Eva
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1952 HODGKINSON Kathleen Eva GILLETT Fred Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended
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lancashireAnn
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27 May 2009 16:24 |
lancs bmd version of Agnes marriage
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1918 HODGKINSON Agnes Ellen BOOKER Albert St Peter, Chorley
the freebmd version is the transcribed correctly from image for surname (Bosher) but Agnes should be Agnes E (poor image but definitely E)
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Heather
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27 May 2009 16:21 |
I know Agnes belonged to St. Peters Church as that is where she is buried so seems that Thomas and Sarah are her parents.
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