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Ricochet
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20 May 2009 17:44 |
FAIRTHORN
Your reference to 'silver surfers' may not have been intended to be patronizing, but, believe me, that's how it comes across.
And to take issue with you further, the 'silver surfers' about whom you are somewhat disparaging, are far more likely to understand the concept of discretion, compared with the younger element who would probably be hard-pushed to define the word.
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Julie
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20 May 2009 17:47 |
OMD's Janey
You should see some of the PM's i have had from people turning on me cos i have comment on the fact that they have plastered living peoples details acrossed the boards
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 17:52 |
Well, you could be lucky, Julie. I get the comments on the open boards. ;)
I'd reply and say: sorry, I have no idea what thread you're talking about, could you post this info in the thread? ...
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Ricochet
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20 May 2009 17:54 |
Janey
You are not on your own in this.....
I've lost count of the number of times I've tried to steer people away from the ill-judged practise of posting inappropriate details on here.........and the abuse I've received for so doing.
The concept of privacy seems outmoded...........in some quarters.
A desperate indictment of modern society..........
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 18:54 |
Thank you too Ricochet.
I've said in the past that I find it gobsmacking, to start with, that info like this is publicly available at all!
Where I'm at (in Canada), birth registration info is protected personal information, usually (each province has its own rules) for 100 years after the birth. No one may request birth certificates for third parties, let alone search the details on the internet. Death registrations are protected for 50 years in many cases, marriages for 75.
And over here, disclosing information from the electoral list is a criminal offence!
The lists used to get posted on telephone poles so people could check them, even up to the 1980s as I recall. Quite the hangover from the pre-information age. ;) But not no more! Candidates' agents have access to the lists, but must not use them for other than election purposes.
So to me - and Sylvia, for instance - this information is already private, kinda by definition, would be our gut feeling. And while we all understand that it's findable by someone who knows where to look and what to look for, there just is a difference between that and posting on internet boards, where there will always be other discussion associated with the hard facts, as well.
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 18:57 |
Ah, but, I just thought - worth mentioning.
The province of Ontario has just legislated to open adoption records to adopted children and birth parents.
There is a 'negative option' provision -- you can file a notice that your personal info must *not* be disclosed. But if you don't do that, and undoubtedly there will be many people who just will not be aware of the new law and the opting out provision, your personal info will be available to people who qualify.
Hotly debated, you can be sure. And of course it was largely the adopted children lobbying for access, and birth parents lobbying against.
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Julie
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20 May 2009 18:57 |
LOL..trust me some couldn't be printed on the boards
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Julie
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20 May 2009 19:27 |
Well as of next month i won't be helping anymore as my subs are out
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 19:29 |
This is the bit I just never get ... what "judgment" can we possibly be talking about??
We are talking about *practices* and *ideas* and we are expressing opinions about them. Most of us, anyhow. There are always the opinions that have to be expressed about moi ...
If suggesting that someone's *practice* is unwise, and expressing the *idea* that we ought to respect strangers' privacy, is passing "judgment" on someone ... I just dunno.
It really is possible to discuss things without discussing the people discussing them. I do it all the time!
I also shock some ... dare I say ... judgmental people by making them fall on the floor laughing all the time, too. ;)
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 19:30 |
Oh, right. Julie wants the thread to be all about her, now.
Okay, I'll play.
Pleeeeease, Julie with urns, pleeeeease don't go!!!!
Your sub only runs out if you don't pay, you do know, right? ;^)
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 19:38 |
Edited because I may actually have completely misinterpreted Ginny. Dunno! It may even have been something I should have said 'ta' for -- ?
Hey, I get to be stupid sometimes too.
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Julie
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20 May 2009 20:04 |
Not on here...me Ancestry subs, been on this site for over 6 years & i ain't going anywhere
But keep going..* pulls up chair*
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SylviaInCanada
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20 May 2009 20:05 |
There are several good points on here, especially if we can ignore the rhetoric about "people" trying to enforce things on others.
Like Janey said, we just do not have free access to the records here in Canada that you have in the UK ..... to protect our privacy. OK, so it gets annoying when you can't find the more recent information. For example, we believe that one of OH's relatives (probably a distant one) died in Ontario in the 1920s, and I cannot yet access those records, so I have to wait patiently until the records are released.
As I said in an earlier post, I just do not help people asking for information on living relatives, especially information on how to contact them. That's my own personal preference.
I put myself mentally in the position of someone who might have had an illegitimate child back in the 1950s or 60s that was then adopted (it didn't happen but it could have!) ..... and wonder how I would feel if that child suddenly appeared. I can understand the viewpoint of the adopted child, but I also think the parent/s have to be considered.
I do get amazed at the information that people post ...... including their own home email and postal addresses. This is NOT a safe site!!
Julie ...... sorry to hear that you are not renewing your sub. We'll miss you.
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SylviaInCanada
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20 May 2009 20:07 |
Ah Julie
you slipped in there!
glad you're not leaving here Julie!!!!!
You can still help with directing newbies to the freebie sites!
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 20:34 |
Ah, Julie can kibitz.
Sylvia -- not just being found by the child who was relinquished for adoption -- but finding the whole tale being told on an internet discussion board!
Now for that death - aren't Ontario deaths available at Ancestry up to 1934 or some such?? That would be 75 years.
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MargaretM
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20 May 2009 20:43 |
Ontario deaths are available up to 1947 here:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1201994035790#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1307826
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Delboy1978
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20 May 2009 20:55 |
Good lord
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SylviaInCanada
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20 May 2009 20:56 |
Thanks Margaret & Janey
all I know is that when I tried to find her death last year, I couldn't
It is also complicated by the fact that she was apparently buried in Saskatchewan .............. no idea why, unless that is where her brother was at that point!
ooooooooopsy
It would help if I got my facts correct wouldn't it?
...... just checked my files, she died in Winnipeg in 1919, and was interred one week later in Kerrobert, SK
It is possible that her brother was in SK, I think I have found him in North Battleford on the 1911 census.
sylvia
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Angela
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20 May 2009 20:57 |
i just wont to add my note
SORRY but iagree with fairthorn
i to think janeycanuk is lecturing as she has just don it with me
simple thing for you is dont read anything and dont help people
some people are new to using this site and if they make a mistake then offer them polite help and not a long rude lecture like you did to me ur message to me offended me
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JaneyCanuck
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20 May 2009 21:02 |
What a sensitive soul.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1152692
If you wish to engage in insult and tantrums, feel free to send me a PM, or to answer my post in your own *&(&$# thread, Angela. One of the many of them.
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