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Sharon

Sharon Report 4 May 2009 16:01

Hi, Im trying to find anyone who knows of Father and Son both named Charles who worked on the River Thames.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 4 May 2009 16:03

And dates, of course.

Sharon probably posted on a 'surname board' and saw the surname in front of her as she posted, and has no idea why we can't see it. We're looking at the 'general' Trying to Find board, and have no way of tracking the post to its surname. Just one of the many divine features of this wonderful site that we pay for ...

+*+blossom In Essex+*+

+*+blossom In Essex+*+ Report 4 May 2009 16:22

Might be worth looking at the Parish Register.com website.

Sharon

Sharon Report 4 May 2009 16:51

Sorry for the lack of info. The Surname is Hockley.

My Father Charles William John
His Father Charles Victor - and brother Leonard also worked on the River

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 4 May 2009 17:29

And now ... dates? places?

And what is it you would like to know?

People who know people just don't read these boards, really. But other people can very often help to find info, if they know what info is wanted.

Do you have their birth info? are you looking for the brothers' mother's name? descendants of your father's siblings or aunts/uncles? ...

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:43

possible

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
Hockley Charles John V Poplar 1c 650


Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
Hockley Charles J V Morris Poplar 1c 996

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Hockley Leonard J Clark Poplar 1c 1037

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:46


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Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Clark Mary Ann Poplar 1c 1012
Cosgrove Alice Elizabeth Poplar 1c 1012
Hockley Charles John Poplar 1c 1012
Taber Joseph John Poplar 1c 1012



LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:47

Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
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Cannon Sarah A Griffin Poplar 1c 996
Griffin Samuel Cannon Poplar 1c 996
Hockley Charles J V Morris Poplar 1c 996
Morris Elsie S Hockley Poplar 1c 996

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 11:50

possible sibling for Charles 1929

Births Mar 1930 (>99%)
Hockley Elsie M Morris Stepney 1c 361

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:00

no sign of a waterman/lighterman

1901 Address: 75, Glengall Road, Poplar
HOCKLEY, Charles J Head Married M 27 1874 General Laborer
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 24 1877
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Dorothy M Daughter F 6 1895
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Edith A Daughter F 3 1898
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Ethel H Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Poplar
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:04

This Hockley family live next door

1901Address: 77, Glengall Road, Poplar
HOCKLEY, William Head Married M 59 1842 General Laborer
Great Dunmow
Essex VIEW
HOCKLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 58 1843
Writtle
Essex VIEW
HOCKLEY, Hannah E Daughter Single F 26 1875 Housemaid Domestic
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Daniel Son Single M 19 1882 General Laborer
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, William Son Single M 14 1887
Poplar
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:07

1891 Address: 75, Glengall Road, Poplar, Tower Hamlets
HOCKLEY, Mary Ann Wife Married F 49 1842
Chelmsford
Essex VIEW
HOCKLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 19 1872 Domestic Servant
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Chas John Son Single M 18 1873 Dock Labourer
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Daniel Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Arthur Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, William Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Christopher Nephew Single M 2 1889
Dunman
Essex VIEW
PARKER, John Boarder Single M 21 1870 Dock Labourer
Bicester
Oxfordshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:26

This one is a waterman. Dunno how he ties in yet but possible

1891 Address: 28, Clare Road, West Ham
HOCKLEY, James W Head Married M 41 1850 Lighterman
Gravesend
Kent VIEW
HOCKLEY, Eliza Wife Married F 36 1855
Gravesend
Kent VIEW
HOCKLEY, William J Son Single M 15 1876 Plumbers Apprentice
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, James W Son Single M 13 1878
Poplar
London VIEW
HOCKLEY, Harry Son Single M 12 1879
Poplar
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:29

Same address again

1881 Address: 55, Glengall Rd, Poplar
HOCKLEY, William Head Married M 37 1844 Laborer
Gt Dunmow
Essex
HOCKLEY, M A Wife Married F 36 1845
Essex
HOCKLEY, Tama Daughter Single F 14 1867
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Alice Daughter Single F 11 1870
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 10 1871
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Charles Son Single M 8 1873
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Hannah Daughter Single F 6 1875
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Edith Daughter Single F 4 1877
Poplar
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:32

1881 Address: 19, Maria St, Poplar
HOCKLEY, James W Head Married M 31 1850 Lighterman
Gravesend
Kent
HOCKLEY, Eleza Wife Married F 27 1854
Greenwich
Kent
HOCKLEY, James Son Single M 2 1879
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Harry Son Single M 1 1880
Poplar
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 12:37

1861 Address: Northgate Street, Beccles Norfolk
HOCKLEY, James W Pupil M 11 1850 Scholar
Gravesend
Kent VIEW
DUSSENT, Rob B Pupil M 9 1852 Scholar
London
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 16:04

Thanks for the pm

You said you did not recognise the name Clark. This is the marriage of Charles 1873 You have recorded her as Hockley not knowing her maiden name.

Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Clark Mary Ann Poplar 1c 1012
Hockley Charles John Poplar 1c 1012

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 16:33

children of Charles and Mary

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Hockley Dorothy May Poplar 1c 701

possible marriage
Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%)
Dowling William Hockley Poplar 1c 741
Hockley Dorothy M Dowling Poplar 1c 741

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Edith Alice Poplar 1c 726

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Hockley Leonard J Clark Poplar 1c 1037

Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
Hockley Ethel Hannah Poplar 1c 616

poss marriage
Marriages Sep 1927 (>99%)
Goldsmith Albert E Hockley Poplar 1c 814
Hockley Ethel H Goldsmith Poplar 1c 814

Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
Hockley Charles John V Poplar 1c 650

Marriages Sep 1929 (>99%)
Hockley Charles J V Morris Poplar 1c 996
Morris Elsie S Hockley Poplar 1c 996


I cannot see the birth of Jane on freebmd

found this though
Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Hockley Dorothy M Clark Romford 4a 1226

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Edith F Clark Romford 4a 1185










Heather

Heather Report 5 May 2009 17:05

What did you want to know about these men? I have some information on Thames watermen and lightermen but you dont seem to say what you actually want to find out?

If you just want to find them in other peoples trees, checke out the search trees tab at the top of the page.

I would point on that on many a marriage cert a dock labourer was "elevated" to one of these trades :)

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 5 May 2009 17:26

The father of Charles John Hockley 1873 was

Births Dec 1844 (>99%)

HOCKLEY William Herbert Dunmow 12 78

or

Births Dec 1845 (99%)
Hockley William Dunmow 12 83

mother Mary Ann unknown

1891 Address: 75, Glengall Road, Poplar, Tower Hamlets
HOCKLEY, Mary Ann Wife Married F 49 1842
Chelmsford
Essex
HOCKLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 19 1872 Domestic Servant
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, Chas John Son Single M 18 1873 Dock Labourer
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, Daniel Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, Arthur Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, William Son Single M 5 1886 Scholar
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, Christopher Nephew Single M 2 1889
Dunman
Essex
PARKER, John Boarder Single M 21 1870 Dock Labourer
Bicester
Oxfordshire

Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
Hockley Laura Lucy Poplar 1c 675

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
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Hockley Laura Lucy Poplar 1c 1096
Hutchings William Samuel Poplar 1c 1096

1901 Address: 24, Clarence Road, Grays Thurrock, Grays
HUTCHINGS, Wm Head Married M 30 1871 Ships Steward
Poplar
London
HUTCHINGS, Laura Wife Married F 29 1872
Poplar
London
HUTCHINGS, Alice Daughter F 8 1893
Plaistow
Essex
HUTCHINGS, Daisy Daughter F 7 1894
Plaistow
Essex
HUTCHINGS, Elsie Daughter F 1 1900
Grays
Essex
ANDREWS, Annie Servant Single F 17 1884 Domestic Servant
New Kent RD
London
MARTIN, Lizzie Lodger Single F 26 1875 Dress Maker
Clerkenwell
London
SAVILLE, Lizzie Wife F 80 1821
Clerkenwell
London

Births Mar 1882 (>99%)
Hockley Daniel Poplar 1c 742

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Arthur Poplar 1c 704


Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
HOCKLEY William Poplar 1c 688

same family
1881 Address: 55, Glengall Rd, Poplar
HOCKLEY, William Head Married M 37 1844 Laborer
Gt Dunmow
Essex
HOCKLEY, M A Wife Married F 36 1845
Essex
HOCKLEY, Tama Daughter Single F 14 1867
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Alice Daughter Single F 11 1870
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 10 1871
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Charles Son Single M 8 1873
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Hannah Daughter Single F 6 1875
Poplar
Middlesex
HOCKLEY, Edith Daughter Single F 4 1877
Poplar
Middlesex




Births Sep 1866 (>99%)
Hockley Tamar R E Mile End 1c 524

Deaths Sep 1881 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Tamar Rose E 15 Poplar 1c 446

This explains why you could not find her

Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Alice Jane Poplar 1c 714

Births Mar 1875 (>99%)
HOCKLEY Hannah Elizabeth Poplar 1c 746

Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
Hockley Edith Caroline Poplar 1c 756



Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
BAKER Nelson Victor Poplar 1c 1011
CHAMBERLAIN George Joseph Poplar 1c 1011
HOCKLEY Edith Caroline Poplar 1c 1011
HOCKLEY Hannah Elizabeth Poplar 1c 1011


1901 Address: 77, Glengall Road, Poplar
HOCKLEY, William Head Married M 59 1842 General Laborer
Great Dunmow
Essex
HOCKLEY, Mary A Wife Married F 58 1843
Writtle
Essex
HOCKLEY, Hannah E Daughter Single F 26 1875 Housemaid Domestic
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, Daniel Son Single M 19 1882 General Laborer
Poplar
London
HOCKLEY, William Son Single M 14 1887
Poplar
London

1901 Address: 36, Ashford Square, Eastbourne
CHAMBERLAIN, George Head Married M 49 1852 General Labourer
Colchester
Essex
CHAMBERLAIN, Alice Wife Married F 39 1862
Chelmsford
Essex
CHAMBERLAIN, George J Son Single M 22 1879 Blacksmith
Gateshead
Durham
CHAMBERLAIN, Rhoda Daughter Single F 16 1885
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Beatrice Daughter Single F 14 1887
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Annie E Daughter Single F 12 1889
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Henry W Son M 8 1893
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Bertha E Daughter F 6 1895
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Ernest W Son M 4 1897
Eastbourne
Sussex
CHAMBERLAIN, Lilian E Daughter F 2 1899
Eastbourne
Sussex
HOCKLEY, Edith Visitor Single F 24 1877
Poplar
London

(I think it is safe to say Edith married George and Hannah married Nelson)