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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 16:16 |
What new heading ? just off for a gander.
Thank you for the english explanation ladies.
I was brought up on sarcasm by my dear mother and her mother ,but that one eluded me there,wakey wakey viv And what is the one that goes with sarcasm being the lowest form of wit. The pen is mightier than the sword well thats only true if you have the way with the words to write. I must learn faster I must learn faster. This late education is harder than early education.
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 16:20 |
it is there Jonesey. what makes you say it didnt last long.
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EvieBeavie
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20 Apr 2009 16:33 |
Posters looking for help are allowed to
- ask other people to find things they can easily find for themselves (if they spend 15 minutes reading the boards, even, to learn how to find things)
- give information that is flat out wrong and invite strangers to waste time looking for more information to help them, that can't be found because the starting information is wrong
- ask strangers to help them with their searches, and never bother coming back to see the help they have been given, let alone thank anyone for it
- not bother spending 5 minutes to learn how their questions will be answered (on the boards) and how to find those answers on the boards
- not bother spending 15 minutes reading the boards to see how the process works before asking strangers to help them find information
- not bother giving the information they do have, that would stop helpful strangers from going off in wrong directions based on the scant information they have given
- delete threads, for absolutely no reason, that helpful strangers have spent time and effort contributing information to, without even giving the helpful strangers an opportunity to see that their information was read and appreciated (even if such acknowledgement is given)
- request the same information multiple times, thus inviting different helpful strangers to waste time and effort doing what has already been done
- not bother spending 2 minutes reading the rules/guidelines for use of the message boards -- when a link asking them to do that appears right alongside the box where they compose their request for help
And I'm sure we could go on.
People who spend time, effort and money offering help to other members are not allowed to
- delete their posts if they find that, after a reasonable time, no acknowledgement has been forthcoming (I don't myself, and I don't recommend it, but I won't get all hot and bothered about those who do)
- get annoyed when they find their time and effort has been wasted by people who do any one or more of the things in the first list above
This is apparently because:
- people who ask helpful strangers to put their time and effort into finding information for them are, in most cases, just incapable of doing any of the things in the first list above - although somehow they are perfectly capable of finding this message board, posting on it, and generally undertaking family history research
- people who ask strangers to spend time and effort helping them find info have delicate constitutions and suffer severe emotional distress if anyone points out to them that they are behaving unfairly / impolitely
- the various possible personal problems of people who ask strangers to help them (they have sick family members, they have disabilities, they are just very very busy and can't be spending all their time monitoring the threads in which they asked strangers for help) must always be taken into consideration - and we should always assume that people who behave in ways that look just plain rude in fact have sick family members, or disabilities, or are terribly busy with very important business, or are just too thick to figure anything out
while, on the other hand,
- people who offer their time, effort and resources to help other people have no feelings whatsoever, and should not expect any consideration whatsoever from people who ask them to devote their time, effort and resources to helping them
That is how it seems to me.
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Contrary Mary
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20 Apr 2009 16:44 |
And that's EXACTLY how it seems to me too EvieBeavie - you've hit the nail right on the head there with your last posting! ;-)))
Mary
Edited to add: And I'm a very tolerant person :-)
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 17:12 |
I missed it Jonesey,and what wobbly? but being the extremely busy person that I am with a medicaly unfit OH, I cant spend all my time Checking up on my threads,reading new GR bumff,and trying to help people find their lost grandparents etc who post on the boards.
Very remiss of them to lose them in the first place though I say.
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EvieBeavie
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20 Apr 2009 17:21 |
Well I suppose I have to point out that that is how it seems to me from general experience on the boards here -- not from what anyone or ones in particular have said in this thread or elsewhere.
And that, contrary to what may have been implied (I wouldn't know), the sarcasm was not intended as a "taunt" of anyone or ones in particular, it was aimed at a general idea I have found to be current on these boards (actually, especially among posters looking for help, and secondarily among regular posters who seem to hold that idea regarding newbies/other regulars, and how the former deserve every consideration and the latter deserve none).
Now, when it comes to losing ancestors, I *can* think of someone who's running hard for that prize. ;)
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 17:44 |
Now let me see who that could be. No I cant even begin to hazard a guess at who you could mean Evie.
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Julie
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20 Apr 2009 17:52 |
Evie
Cheers i need that, after the cr@p that is doing on at the mo that has made me laugh so much my sides hurt
Im going to save it if thats ok
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EvieBeavie
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20 Apr 2009 18:32 |
Sniff ... sniff ... hmm.
Dear me, sarcasm seems to be heavy in the air. Should I be feeling taunted?
Oops, not me. Mine is not to question why, mine is just to do and stfu.
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 18:33 |
Who needs a perfect world when its got me whos perfect anyway. Too many of us would only spoil it.
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EvieBeavie
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20 Apr 2009 18:35 |
Julie - you may feel free to quote me. I do it all the time. ;)
Viv -- BOAGEY!
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 18:36 |
Now children I only started this thread in fit of temper about some peoples rule for themselves and not others. So no squabbling over who can be the most sarcastic. I would never be sarky as perfect people dont need to be!
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FannyByGaslight
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20 Apr 2009 18:38 |
You mean the BOAGEY man is back Evie? Yummy,see you there
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SylviaInCanada
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20 Apr 2009 20:32 |
great fun reading back on this thread!!
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Gee
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21 Apr 2009 05:41 |
Brilliant. Thanks to Viv and some obviously VERY educated posters there has been some interesting reading - lol!
It's nice to be able to point out things that get our goat while still having a sense of humour..Evie you should write a book mate I'd be a taker!
Well Viv, your wobbly must have been truly 'wobbled' a very cathartic moment I should think!
Thanks guys
x
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EvieBeavie
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21 Apr 2009 06:03 |
Ah, you see, I don't need to be writing no books.
My oeuvre will live for eternity on these boards -- I don't delete. ;)
(Well, once in a blue moon I do. There are a few threads I posted in yonks ago that are still active, although they immediately ceased to interest me, and I get bored seeing them constantly in my My Threads. So I've deleted a bit. *Not* genealogy stuff, I hasten to point out.)
So all you ever have to do is search me up, and you can print off and make yr own book.
What, you want me to do everything for you?!
ha ha. That's a joke.
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Gee
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21 Apr 2009 06:42 |
If I'm gona write and publish your book Evie I want commision!
I have been on GR for about 18 months and this thread has given me lots of insight into 'people'. For a long time it was hard to work out who had a sense of humour and not..now I know.
You can add me to the list of 'I like a joke' brigade
Evie just another stupid question(be careful with your answer I might delete my thread!!!)...how do you delete/clean up your own threads I havent worked that one out yet?
Ginny
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FannyByGaslight
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21 Apr 2009 09:53 |
Ginny.
Aint you got it yet girl??? Its the deleting of threads that upsets certain peoples, so wot ya wanna do dat for???
I aint bovvered eiver way poisnally, long as you got me ard graft or off centre comments printed orf first I coulnd give a monkey nut.
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Gee
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21 Apr 2009 11:11 |
Now I've stopped laughing I can write back!
I meant 'my threads' to delete as they are getting too big
And Viv...was that you being sarcastic...how very dare you
Oh noooooo just realised it's deleting 'my threads' that upsets people! And people tell me I'm bright...shows how dumb they are lol
So please one last daft question. If you delete threads from your own account as in the 'my threads' on the bottom left does this then delete it from the whole GR site? I thought my threads was more of a favourite and was personal to you and your account...?
Gin x
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FannyByGaslight
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21 Apr 2009 11:33 |
If you are the poster of the thread, as in me for this one,then I / you can delete the whole thing from GR by deleting at the original first message if I wish to do so, which I DONT. Only GR other than you can do so. If you just want to delete a stupid comment or if you thought it was unsavoury after you posted it then you can delete your little message on the string of the thread Or like me who on the few {VERY few] occasions has posted some info and then realised it was TOTALLY WRONG ,not often of course,then I have been known to delete my message from a thread.
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