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Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Apr 2009 16:29

Ok after months of not talking to my grandmother we have now spent the morning on the phone chatting away and have got little (very little) bits of infomation from her.

Her first husband was married before but i am unable to find any information on the first wife what so ever.
I ordered her death cert hoping that was going to help but to no joy.
Nan has now given me some new information but its still so little to go by without a surname plus i cant even find a marriage for this person.
Nan says that this person had sisters, not sure if older or younger and have now been given an area of where she came from.

Please where do i start?

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 16:34

First things first lol...you want to find the first marriage yes? so put the name of husband and wife on here and I and others will be able to look .. give what dates you know and we will be able to point you to records that might help

rose x

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Apr 2009 16:37

This is the problem i have his name is Norman Charles Chamley and her first name was Lilian i do not have a maiden name for her and the only marriage that can be found for him is to my nan which is the second marriage.
Lilian came from Salford Manchester, she died in 1947 age 26 yrs

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2009 16:47

Did the family live in Salford?

There are two Chamley births in Salford, both with a mother's maiden name of Murgatroyd:

Name: Brenda Chamley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Murgatroyd
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1941
Registration district: Salford
Registration county: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 670

Catherine Chamley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Murgatroyd
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1943
Registration district: Salford
Registration county: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 691

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Don't think they are your family - there is marriage between a Samuel Chamley and Murgatroyd in 1939 in Salford.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 16:58

Potty the marriage of Chamley to Murgatroyd is Samuel Chamley just found....1939 so not them...still looking lol

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Apr 2009 17:01

Norman Charles Chamley came from Lambeth london, Lilian was from Salford but ive been unable to find a marriage for them, they never had any children.

I did say it wasnt much to go on.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 17:08

Right Norman C m Hatcher , Eton, where Lilian died same year 6a 839 just x checking

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 17:10

right thats coming up as Lydia J hatcher not Lilian ?

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 17:14

no cant be her...are you sure it was Lilian ? I have the death but before that marriage!

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 17:20

but I have searched through the qtrs from 1938 to 47 (apart from the last qtr of 1943 which is missing and that is the only Norman C Chamley marriage....

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Apr 2009 17:25

This is correct Lilian died in the April 1947 and then Norman married my nan in the October 1947 Lydia J Hatcher.
I cant find a marriage either and on the second marriage cert his is metioned as a widower. Im lost and confused.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 17:28

Hi Samantha ...well unless he married in that missing qtr of 1943 he must have married before 1938... what year was he born, so I can work out how early to look?

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2009 17:39

Was he in the Forces during the war? Could the marriage have taken place abroad?

Samantha

Samantha Report 18 Apr 2009 17:41

Hi,
Norman was born in 1916.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 18:02

well looked back to 1935 any further and lilian would have been too young to marry...what details appeared on her death cert?

Pam

Pam Report 18 Apr 2009 18:13

name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Chamley Norman C Collins Lambeth 1d 795

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 18 Apr 2009 18:37


Hi

I've managed to get the missing 1943 Q4 on Ancestry and there's no marriage for them :-(

Also checked the Army marriages on FMP and nothing there either :-(

This was the closest match I found but the brides name isn't Lilian:

Norman Cham(B)ley to Roberts 1943 Q1

Mary

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Apr 2009 18:45

oooh well done finding that qtr Mary! it was bugging me lol... but seems there is no marriage to be found...

too many Lilians born in Salford to pin one down also

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 18 Apr 2009 19:00


Wonder if it's been transcribed as Charnley in the indexes??

Mary

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 18 Apr 2009 19:17

: Sybil E Chamley
Birth: Jan Feb Mar 1918 - Lambeth, Greater London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
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PreviewName: Margaret Chamley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Collins
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d

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Name: Margaret Chamley
Birth: Jan Feb Mar 1920 - Lambeth, Greater London

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PreviewName: Francis B Chamley
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Collins
District: St Marylebone (1902-1977)
County: Greater London, London
Volume: 1a

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Name: Francis B Chamley
Birth: Sep 1911 - St Marylebone (1902-1977), Greater London, London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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PreviewName: Norman R Connell
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bonest
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1921
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d

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Name: Norman R Connell
Birth: Jul Aug Sep 1921 - Lambeth, Greater London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: John C Chamley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Hares
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1948
Registration district: Fulham
Registration county: Greater London, Middlesex
Volume Number: 5c

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Name: John C Chamley
Birth: Jan Feb Mar 1948 - Fulham, Greater London, Middlesex

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Norman Chamley
Birth: Jan Feb Mar 1932 - S.Shields, Durham

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Norman Chamley
Birth: Jan Feb Mar 1930 - Clitheroe, Lancashire

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Charles J Comley
Birth: Jul Aug Sep 1918 - Fulham, Greater London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Charles W Connolly
Birth: Apr May Jun 1918 - London C, Greater London

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Name: Charles E Comley
Birth: Sep 1914 - Islington, Greater London, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005


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Name: Norman Chamley
Birth: 19 Dec 1929
Death: Jul 1998 - Tameside, Greater Manchester

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Charles H Conelley
Birth: Oct Nov Dec 1919 - Lewisham, Greater London

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Charles L Connolly
Birth: Dec 1913 - West Ham, Essex, Greater London

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Muriel Sarah Chamley
Birth: Dec 1908 - St Marylebone (1902-1977), Greater London, London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Charles W Cannell
Birth: Oct Nov Dec 1920 - Shoreditch, Greater London

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005


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Name: Charles W Connelly
Birth: Apr May Jun 1920 - St Geo East, Greater London

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Charles A Conley
Birth: Dec 1912 - Shoreditch, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Charles W Conley
Birth: Jun 1912 - Mile End Old Town, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Charles Chamley
Birth: Jun 1843 - Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915


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Name: Edward Charles Chamley
Birth: Jun 1880 - Sheffield, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding

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Name: Charles Braithwaite Chamley
Birth: Mar 1871 - East Ward, Westmorland