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Agnes Harsley - Not the daughter

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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 28 Mar 2009 20:24

Have you put everything into a timeline yet?
I think you will find that really helpful.

Emma

Emma Report 28 Mar 2009 15:55

Hi,

I hope your still there ?!?!

I Emaild a guy that had Ambrose William Bull in his tree - he has records that Ambrose married Emma BAILEY, not Barley. Hmmmm.
still who is the farther is of Agnes - unless there is another John Harsley born at the same time, ha the same occupation has the same brother, with the same age difference between them ???- I could go on. Will keep searching !

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 21:52

Hi Christine,

Thanks, I will do that. I really need to sort out the time line.
I've noticed the moving ages, I also had a Birth and a Christening 3 years apart for the same person and his age moved 4 years over a 20 year span - nightmare, I always need to double check to make sure I'm looking at the same person.

Thanks for your help

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 21:43

Can I suggest you cut and paste these results onto your word processor or something and build yourself a time line to see who is where when. \that may make things a little clearer. Just because I have not found something does not mean it is not there, I have had wild and woolly mistranscriptions, ancestors who age 4 years in 10, at least 2 with marriages to the same person in different years, children of 4 down as married,sex changes and all sorts.

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 21:37

Jeanette,
Just had another look at your previous post - and noticed the surnames (dur - I should pay better attention)
Agnes ELIZA Bull, born 1869

Agnes ELIZA Harsley Married 1886

Could it be ??? Did Emma run off with Agnes ???

------ The Harsleys would of been in london in 1886 as the last child _ Arthur was born in london in 1883 ish

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 21:31

1861 Address: Tofts, Wainfleet St Mary
ABRAHAM, Samuel Head Of Family Married M 56 1805 Farmer Of...Employing 2 Men & 2 Boys
Wainfleet St Mary
Lincolnshire VIEW
ABRAHAM, Eliza Wife Married F 53 1808
Baston
Lincolnshire VIEW
ABRAHAM, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 29 1832
Wainfleet All Saints
Lincolnshire VIEW
ABRAHAM, Samuel Son Unmarried M 28 1833
Wainfleet All Saints
Lincolnshire VIEW
ABRAHAM, Charles F Son Unmarried M 25 1836
Wainfleet All Saints
Lincolnshire VIEW
ABRAHAM, Susanna M Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842
Old Leake
Lincolnshire VIEW
PARKER, Susanna Visitor Widow F 77 1784
Spalding
Lincolnshire VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Ellen Niece Unmarried F 12 1849 Scholar
Old Leake
Lincolnshire VIEW
MOTLEY, Sarah Servant Unmarried F 19 1842 Dairy Maid
Friskney
Lincolnshire VIEW
WHITING, Jabez Servant Unmarried M 19 1842 Carter
Friskney
Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Henry Servant Unmarried M 17 1844 Farmers Boy
Wainfleet All Saints
Lincolnshire

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 21:30

Hi janette,

Thats interesting, So I wonder what happend to Ambroses wife Emma as he was a widower, could Emma have run off with her daughter Agnes and later married John Harsley ?? - or am I pushing too much for something like that ??
But I still am unable to find a marriage for Emma Barley and John Harsley, and he was also shown as unmarried on the 1871 census - when hes supposed to be married to Emma and have a daughter, Agnes.
somethings missing here !

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 26 Mar 2009 21:21

Hi Emma

The Emma Bull who died 1888 was married to Charles Bull. They are together in 1881 census RG11 Piece:1538 Folio:67 Page:2 Potterspury

Charles married Susannah Land Jun 1889 and they are together in 1891 census RG number:12 Piece:1190 Folio:40 Page:9 Potterspury

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 21:20


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Births Mar 1877 (>99%)
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Harsley Florence Potterspury 3b 30

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Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Harsley Harry Potterspury 3b 29

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 21:04

Births Mar 1848 (>99%)
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BULL Ambrose William Newport Pagnell 6 389

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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BAILEY Emma Potterspury 3b 53
Barley Emma Potterspury 3b 53
Bull Ambrose William Potterspury 3b 53

Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Bull Ambrose W 64 Kettering 3b 111

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 20:59

Hi Dea,

Thanks for the link - very interesting.
Im going to have a good read through it, its nice to get an idea of where my family is from.

I will let you know if i find anything,
thanks again

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 20:55

Hi Christine,

Thanks for everything so far, hope theres something there!

Thanks again

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 20:53

John's occupation as groom and coachman could mean travelling.

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 26 Mar 2009 20:52

could this be Agnes?


Births Dec 1869 (>99%)
Bull Agnes Eliza Potterspury 3b 29


Marriages Dec 1886 (>99%)
GREY George Pancras 1b 242
Harsley Agnes Eliza Pancras 1b 242

1901 census

GRAY, George Head Married M 43 1858 Carpenter
Scotland Dundee VIEW
GRAY, Agnes E Wife Married F 31 1870
Stoney Stratford
Buckinghamshire VIEW
GRAY, George H Son M 13 1888
St Pancras
London VIEW

RG number:13
Piece:180
Folio:60
Page:29


Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Barnsbury EnumerationDistrict:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Islington St Silas

Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Denmark Grove, Islington County:
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 20:47

Hi Emma
I am trying to find as much as I can relating to the people in your post before trying to work out links.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 20:44

1901 Address: 6, White Conduit Street, Clerkenwell
HARSLEY, John Head Married M 49 1852 Horse Keeper
Skendleby
Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Emma Wife Married F 48 1853
Stong Stratford
Buckinghamshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Harry Son Single M 22 1879 Gas And Hot Water Fitter
Stong Stratford
Buckinghamshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Arthur Son Single M 18 1883 Tyre Smith
St Pancras
London

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 20:35

The Harsleys did move around a lot didnt they - Agnes ( if it is hi daughter) born in potterspury,
John born in lincolnshire 1875
Florence born in potterspury1877
Harry Born in potterspury 1879
Arthur born in london 1882/83.

is that usual ??

Emma

Emma Report 26 Mar 2009 20:20

Wow, you guys are quick !! the info is interesting ! I always thought something wasnt right with these guys.

Do you think there is a possible connection with Ambrose, Emma Bailey/Barley ??

P.S Still smiling at the title !

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 20:19

1881 Address: 51, Compton St, St Pancras
HARSLEY, John Head Married M 29 1852 Groom & Coachman
Spendley
Lincolnshire
HARSLEY, Emma Wife Married F 29 1852 Domestic
Stoney Stratford
Buckinghamshire
HARSLEY, Agnes Daughter Single F 13 1868
Stoney Stratford
Buckinghamshire
HARSLEY, John Son Single M 6 1875
Bag Enderby
Lincolnshire
HARSLEY, Florence Daughter Single F 4 1877
S Stratford
Buckinghamshire
HARSLEY, Harry Son Single M 2 1879
S Stratford
Buckinghamshire
HAYNES, Kate Visitor Single F 18 1863 General Servant
Lang Buckly
Northamptonshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Mar 2009 20:16

for ref
1871 Address: Cottage, Skendleby
HARSLEY, Henry Head M 28 1843 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Mary Wife F 26 1845 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1867 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Sophia Daughter F 2 1869 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, Emma Daughter F 0 1871 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARSLEY, John Brother M 18 1853 Lincolnshire