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11 Dec 2015 08:01 |
Just to add message I am out a lot to day but If you can let me know how to share tree I will be happy to. My Eliza Houzego married William chambers and had 7 children sadly most died very young, also mine are from Brighton and Reigate
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Wendy
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16 Jun 2010 15:40 |
Annie Rebecca Byatt 1853 and Thomas Housego 1849-1893 were my great Grandparents. Are you still researching the Housego's as this was my maiden name? Wendy
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Katie
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23 Feb 2009 10:41 |
No, Frederick's father was just listed as labourer, so I assume he was still alive when Frederick and Emily married. You say the one i found was deceased by 1901, but they married in 1898 so he could have died maybe shortly after?
Thanks for your continued help :)
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ann
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20 Feb 2009 22:56 |
Katie,my friend Linda Howsego father was Alfred J Howsego born 1931 in West Ham so she is a part of your family. Annie
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 22:34 |
Just had a thought! Was Frederick's father, noted as deceased on the marriage cert.? If no then it probably isn't the one in the census records you found as he was deceased by 1901 census.
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 22:19 |
Same family inn 1851:-
Name: William Hausego Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Trowse, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Trowse Newton County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Brakebarn Cottage
Occupation: Ag.Lab.
Registration district: Henstead Sub registration district: Humbleyard ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age William Hausego 45 Elizabeth Hausego 38 born: Trowse, Norfolk Thomas Hausego 11 Robert Hausego 10 Henry Hausego 7 Elizabeth Hausego 5 Amy Hausego 3 James Hausego 9 Mo Robert Rayner 46
Still no George!
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 22:08 |
Clara in 1841:-
Name: Clara Hausey Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Female Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Trowse Newton Hundred: Henstead County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Registration district: Henstead Sub registration district: Henstead Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Hausey 30 Elizabeth Hausey 25 Clara Hausey 6 Thomas Hausey 1
Checked name and it is Housego!!
Clara Housego - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 12 APR 1835 Trowse, Norfolk, England Father: William Housego Mother: Elizabeth but this looks like a submitted entry so........
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 21:59 |
Well that's not very nice. This looks like Clara in 1851 but she's been sent off to work for someone:-
Name: Clara Housego Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Trowse, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich St Giles County/Island: Norfolk Country: England
Occupation: House Servant Registration district: Norwich Sub registration district: Mancroft ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 23 Household Members: Name Age James Duckett 77 Catherine Duckett 70 Mary Ann Hutson 37 Catherine F Hutson 9 James J Hutson 8 Rances M Hutson 6 Rebecca Hovel 20 Clara Housego 16
Bad luck there will have to try 1841!
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 21:49 |
So, the first birth record for Mile End would be the Frederick with father Thomas and mother Ann and the sister Winifred. Unfortunately Thomas is noted in 1891 census as being a Plumber (as he is in the previous census records) so not sure if he would be down on marriage cert. as Labourer. This Frederick is also noted in 1891 census as Coachman (Inn), so not too sure if this the correct family??
The other birth would certainly be the Frederick in the other 1891 census born in Barnwell, Norfolk and living with his Uncle William Marshall and Clara (Housego). He is noted as Labourer so could be worth looking a little closer into this family to see what his father was called or see if Clara had a brother George!!
Or, you could just buy the two birth cert.s to see what they say!!!
Shame about the Witnesses, they are often members of the family, brothers or sisters or sometimes the parents. Could of course be his married sister?
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Katie
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20 Feb 2009 15:59 |
WOW thank you so much everyone for your help!!
In reply to Catherine's question Frederick and his father were both listed as labourers, the witnesses on the certificate were Philip and Emily Tucker.
I am going to have to keep searching into this one! I just would love to find out if the father was Thomas George, as quite a few people in my family did go and still do go by their second names!
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 15:57 |
Births of all Frederick Housego's that I could find, anywhere in the country between 1875 and 1879 using phonetic search on surnames:-
Births Dec 1875 HOUSEGO Frederick William Mile End 1c 535
Births Dec 1876 (>99%) Housego Frederick William Depwade 4b 241 The district Depwade spans the boundaries of the counties of Norfolk and Suffolk
only two and only one from the London area which certainly seems to be the one in the above census records!
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 15:45 |
Looks like his birth:- Births Dec 1847 (>99%) HOUSEGE Thomas Blything 13 360 The district Blything is in the county of Suffolk Registration district for Wrentham SFK From - 1837 To - 1935
still no George, that is frustrating!
Nevertheless I do feel that there are too many coincidences and not enough Frederick Housego's around not to take this lead as serious.
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ann
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20 Feb 2009 15:39 |
Katie,I used to hang a round with a girl called Linda Howsgo back at school.We lived in West Ham.Must be a connection but sadly i dont know what happened to her after i got married. Annie
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 15:30 |
and in 1881:- Name: Frederick Housego Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 103 Shandy St
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Housego 33 - born: Wrentham, Suffolk - (Builder) Ann Housego 27 - born: Stepney Charles Housego 10 - born: Stepney Anne Housego 9 Thomas Housego 8 Henry Housego 6 Frederick Housego 5 Mary Ann Housego 4 Sydney Housego 1 Isabella Housego
and in 1871:- Name: Thomas Housego Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Anne A Gender: Male Where born: Wrentham, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 73 Edward Street
Occupation: Plumber
Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Housego 22 Anne A Housego 18 Charles E Housego 1 Matilda Milgate 34 - Visitor - born: Wapping, Middlesex
could possibly be the marriage for this couple:- Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) BYATT Ann Rebecca Mile End 1c 1108 Housego Thomas Mile End 1c 1108
unfortunately no George in the name is noted!
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 15:26 |
You said earlier in the thread that you have Frederick's marriage cert. What was his and his father's profession? What were the names of the witnesses?
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 14:59 |
The marriage you spoke of:- Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%) CROXFORD Mary A H Reynolds Mile End 1c 458 <<<<Freshney Alfred W (Housego) Mile End 1c 458 <<<<Housego Winifred F (Freshney) Mile End 1c 458 Reynolds John R Croxford Mile End 1c 458
The district Mile End is an alternative name for Mile End Old Town and it spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex
and this looks like her in 1901:- Name: Winifred Housigo Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, London, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 43 Rokeby Street
Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Housigo 45 - born: Stepney, London - Widow Henry Housigo 25 - born: Stepney, London Jessie Housigo 18 - born: Stepney, London Lilian Housigo 17 - born: Stepney, London Walter Housigo 15 - born: Mile End, London Jane Housigo 12 - born: Mile End, London Winifred Housigo 9 Frank Colmer 39 - Boarder
same family in 1891 with Frederick:- Name: Frederick Housego Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Benet County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 30 Harford Street
Occupation: Coachman (Inn)
Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Housego 43 - born: Suffolk - Plummer Annie Housego 36 - born: Stepney Thomas Housego 18 Henry Housego 16 Frederick Housego 15 Mary Ann Housego 14 Jessy Housego 9 Lillian Housego 8 John Housego 6 Jane Housego 2 Frances Colmar 30
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Catherine
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20 Feb 2009 14:57 |
That does look very promising Katie. The link with the witness on the death record seems too much of a coincidence to ignore. Definitely worth looking into a little further!!
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Katie
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20 Feb 2009 12:04 |
I have found a family by the name of Housego, the head of the house was Thomas and the wife Annie. They had quite a few children, one of them by the name of Frederick William, and they also had another by the name of Thomas George. I am wondering if whether the head of house was also called Thomas George, and went by the name George, hence why he was listed as George on Fredericks marriage certifIcate.
Also, this family that I have found have a sister by the name of Winifred, in 1914 she married a man by the name of Freshney. When Frederick died in 1923 an A.Freshney registered his death and stated that it was his brother-in-law.
On the 1911 census the family are without the head of house Thomas, who may have died as Annie is listed as a widow. But there is a son Frederick, whose age is 36 and he is listed as single and winifred is aged 19 on there which means she would have been about the right age to marry in 1914. Maybe Frederick was listed as single as he had separated from Emily, who was in 1911 living with John Litson.
Do you think i am going down the right lines, or clutching at straws?
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Catherine
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19 Feb 2009 10:25 |
So far this is the closest I can get to a Frederick Howsego born 1878+/- in 1891 census:- Name: Frederick Housago Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Barnwell, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: St Stephen Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: 35 King Street
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Norwich Sub registration district: Mancroft ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William R Marshall 57 born: Norwich, Norfolk - Painter Clara E Marshall 56 born: Trowse, Norfolk Elizabeth Skipper 71 Boarder Frederick Housago 13
The marriage for this couple:- Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) Hannah William Norwich 4b 419 <<<<Housego Clara Norwich 4b 419 <<<<Marshall William Robert Norwich 4b 419 Wright Matilda Norwich 4b 419
If only you knew where Frederick was born?
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Katie
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19 Feb 2009 10:24 |
Thanks Catherine.
I had the William marrying Lylie, and their daughter Lylie, she died a year later which is sad.
I didn't have the other children though so thats great.
Thats the thing that would be the easiest, if i could find someone else that are searching. I am joined to Ancestry.com and can you believe I am the only person on the whole site who are researching Howsegos in and around London and Essex, seems crazy!
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