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Help needed passenger list scotland to canada

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GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 20:31

I am looking for John Mcfiggins born 1850 in Scotland. He married a canadian lady Charlotte Fraser b1857 in 1885.
I am guessing he would have emigrated to Canada and married and later moved to Rochester Monroe New York where they had a family and he died in 1917.
Off course he maybe went straight to the States and meet and married Charlotte there.
Can anyone suggest a source to find passenger list for voyages or perhaps offer any other ideas
Many thanks
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:06

The 1900 New York census shows that he immigrated to the U.S. in 1861. Number of years in the United States: 40. Charlotte is shown immigrating in 1860, living in the U.S. 40 years.
Donald, born Apr 1877, "son" of John, is shown as born in Canada, father was born in Canada, mother in New York. Donald immigrated in 1880.
Fred, born Sept 1869, "son" of John, is shown as born in New York, father was born in Canada, mother in New York.

John's birthplace is Canada Sc. It would be interesting to see the 1910 census, to see if he was born in Canada or Scotland.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:17

Thanks Lisa
Just to check are you saying there where 2 children - Donald and Fred
The only reason I ask is that I thought they had a son
John b 2 Sept 1889 d 4 Jan 1972 - but this info is a bit shady - Could you throw any light on that one???
Thanking you
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:24

Sorry, Jane, my mum just called. I'll send information now.

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 21:24

Here's the 1910. Give me a minute and I'll fill it in for you.


1910 United States Federal Census
about John D McFiggins
Name: John D McFiggins
[John D McHiggins]
Age in 1910: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Canada English
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Home in 1910: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1870
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John D McFiggins 60 mason
Charlotte McFiggins 52 immigration year 1865 b Canada English
Fred McFiggins 38 nephew, b New York, moulder in a foundrey
Donald McFiggins 32 son, b Canada English

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It says they had been married 25 years but Charlotte was the mother of ' 0 children, 0 living.'


Liz

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:32

Thanks so much
This information is more than I could have hoped for
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:34

I supposed this is your family:

I'm sorry, I just reread the image. You are correct; he only had one son. I apologize.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: John McFeggins
[John McFiggins]
Home in 1900: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Age: 50
Birth Date: May 1850
Birthplace: Canada SC
[Canada;Scotland]
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1860
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother's Birthplace: Scotland
Mother: number of living children: 1
Mother: How many children: 1
Spouse's Name: Charlotte
Marriage Year: 1885
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Residence : Rochester City, Monroe, New York
Name Age
John McFeggins 50
Charlotte McFeggins 47
Donald McFeggins 23
Fred McFeggins 30

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: John D McFiggins
[John D McHiggins]
Age in 1910: 60
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Canada English
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland; Charlotte's father: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland; Charlotte's mother: Scotland
Home in 1910: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Marital Status: Married (married twice); John and Charlotte married 25 years
Year of Immigration: 1870
Household Members:
Name Age
John D McFiggins 60, Mason, Contractor
Charlotte McFiggins 52, mother of how many children: 0; born Canada? (cannot read), immigrated 1865
Fred McFiggins 38, Nephew (to John), born New York, father born Canada, mother born New York, Moulder, Foundry
Donald McFiggins 32, Son (to John), born Canada, father born Canada, mother born New York, no occupation

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:36

Now that I've blundered that :(
do you need any other information?

Do you have this:
Rochester, New York Directory, 1888-91
Name: John D. McFiggins
Location 2: 80 Davis
Occupation: plasterer
Year: 1888, 1889
City: Rochester
State: NY

If I can find it, would you like further information about the family?

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:39

Hi Alviegal. In my haste to fix my error, I didn't see you there. ;)

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:40

Lisa
Any more info would be fantastic - I really appreicate your efforts - it's just great
Many thanks
Jane

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:42

Thanks very much Alviegal - really appriecate your help
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:44

Jane, are you sure "your" John married someone named Charlotte? You mentioned your John was born in Scotland. So far, this John appears to have been born in Canada.

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 21:53

Hi Lisa,
I noticed this too, My John's parents were Malcolm Mcfiggins and
Elizabeth Moodie both born and died in Scotland. I understood from another source that their son 'the said John' Mcfiggins born May 1850 in Scotland and died in Feb 1917 In New York.
Not sure what other info I need to relate these things together. Maybe a marriage certifitcate.
I believe John and Charlotte were married in 1885 but I can't find a marriage in Scotland and because she was Canadian i right or wrongly assumed that they married overseas!!!
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 21:57

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Charlotte E McFiggins
Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Age: 60 years
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Widow
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1865
Charlotte E McFiggins 60
Frederick F McFiggins 48, Nephew, Single, Moulder, Stove? Foundry
25 Sterling Avenue
Listed right below them:
------------ John D. (so I'm assuming his name was also McFiggins; could his name have been John Donald?); relationship is Head, but was originally Nephew and crossed out; born in Canada as were parents; Labourer, Foundry
Elizabeth M, wife, age 23, born New York, father born New York, mother born England
Harold, Son, 1 2/12, born New York, father born Canada?, mother born New York
25 Sterling Street

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 21:57


1930 United States Federal Census
about Fred McFiggins
Name: Fred McFiggins
Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Cheulatte McFiggins 74
Fred McFiggins 59

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1920 United States Federal Census
about Charlotte E McFiggins
Name: Charlotte E McFiggins
[Charlotte E. McFiggins]
Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York
Age: 60 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1865
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 476
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte E McFiggins 60
Frederick F McFiggins 48

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Just the last 2 census records.


Liz

GI Jane

GI Jane Report 16 Feb 2009 22:03

Thank you both so much for searching on my behalf - just need to clear up when and where John emigrated .
The info you have given suggests that John was born in Canada but that doesn't tie up - so I have a bit more sorting to do!!
Jane

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:05

We can keep looking around, but until we can find a connection, I'm not too sure this is the correct family.

Did someone say John married someone named Charlotte in 1885? Or, did you get that from the census record?

If you were told they married, then this could very well be the correct family.

Before I continue with American information, let me see if I can find John in Canada.

I hope I didn't scare Alviegal off. Sometimes, three heads are better than two. :( (Actually, most times, if I'm involved. )
:)

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 16 Feb 2009 22:07

Before I lose this:

1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Cheulatte McFiggins
Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York
Age: 74
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: Canada
Relation to Head of House: Head
Age at first marriage: 25
Cheulatte McFiggins 74
Fred McFiggins 59, Nephew, Single, Factory Worker, Stove Factory

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:09

This is the marriage of your two Scottish people I know you must have this but it just shows the difference in spelling of the surname.




ELIZABETH MOODIE Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MALCOM MACFEGGAN Family
Marriage:
19 DEC 1800 Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland



ELIS. MOODIE Pedigree
Female Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MALCOLM MCFIGAN Family
Marriage:
06 DEC 1800 Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Feb 2009 22:11

Still here Lisa, you haven't scared me off. I'm in Scotland so I may be able to find something out on this side.

Liz