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INFO ON ROBERT WHITWORTH!!!!!!!! sorry deleted ot

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Lisa

Lisa Report 29 May 2009 07:27

Hi guys,im getting nowhere fast.so in june(12-15) im going to Lancashire to visit my cousin,she has made an appointment for me to see the archivist at Bury library,maybe he can help,fingers crossed!!!!!!!

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2009 13:10

Thanks Lancashireann,

Yes, that's why I thought I had got him!!!

born ASHTON-U-LYNE, around the correct time - father John (a tinner from marriage cert), working in a foundry. - All sounded so good but I don't think it is the right one !!

Needs more work.........

Dea x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 23 May 2009 12:56

just as a reminder this was on p4

Sorry deleted info by mistake
Robert Jones Whitworth b1818 ish,no def record found ,birthplace Ashton-u-Lyne
married Ann Parker 1842 AUL
child;William whitworth b1843 AUL
2nd spouse
Mary Hobson nee Greensmith in 1858,AUL
Roberts father named on 2nd marriage record on Ancestry
Samuel Whitworth
But Rochdale Library say on their microfilm it says Roberts father is John Jones Whitworth

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2009 12:25

Hi,

SSoooo sorry!!

I am back now and have tried to check through - I DON'T believe it is the correct one !!!!!

I'm REALLY sorry to have built up your hopes but will check further.

Dea Xxx

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2009 08:07


ROBERT WHITWORTH
Birth:
Christening: 13 AUG 1815 Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN WHITWORTH Family
Mother: DINAH



Extracted birth or christening record



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Marriages:
JOHN WHITWORTH
Spouse: DINAH PLATT Family
Marriage: 29 DEC 1811 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the

...........

A Samuel PLATT was also in the hosehold with the family on 1841!!

Dea x

Lisa

Lisa Report 23 May 2009 08:06

Thanks Dea,how is it that something thats ultimately a hobby can do this to your emotions!!!
i feel close to tears this morning,so much hard work went into this,& not just by me,but so many other great people like yourself!!!!
Part of me wants to give in,but the other bit wont be beaten,thanks for your words of support,it means so much. kind regards Lisa xxx

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2009 08:01

Hang on!!! - I have them???? :

1841 England Census
about Dinah Whitworth
Name: Dinah Whitworth
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Stockport
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Dukinfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Whitworth 50 foundryman
Dinah Whitworth 55




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 110; Book: 13; Civil Parish: Stockport; County: Cheshire; Enumeration District: 27; Folio: 13; Page: 20; Line: 15; GSU roll: 241243.

Source Information

ALSO IN HOUSEHOLD ON IMAGE but not coming up with them:
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Dinah Whitworth abt 1786 Stockport, Cheshire

John Whitworth abt 1791 Stockport, Cheshire

Betty Whitworth abt 1816 Stockport, Cheshire

Robert Whitworth abt 1816 Stockport, Cheshire !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mechanic.

Harriet Whitworth abt 1837 Cheshire, England Stockport, Cheshire

** I already had notes about John + Dinah - I will go and find them.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 23 May 2009 07:53

Hi Lisa,

Don't feel SO deflated !!!

I am 'on the case' and I am sure many others will be - we will get there in the end !!!

I think the two witnesses were just friends and probably not related (they did marry each other a year or two later)

Am following them around for a while and looking for dad 'John'

Have to go out for a while this morning but will be back onto it later.

Dea x

Lisa

Lisa Report 23 May 2009 07:37

I Just had a look on family search.org ,there are 9 possibles!!!!!!
Ranging from 1798-1825,where to start!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa

Lisa Report 23 May 2009 07:04

Hi Guys,well i think this must be the lowest low i've hit since starting this tree about 2 years ago!!!!!!
Yesterday i recieved Robert Jones Whitworth & Ann Parkers marriage cert,it was my "worst case cenario"
Robert & Ann married on 24th July 1842 in Middleton Lancashire
No ages given,itjust says "of full age" so not even a clue as to his birth year!!
At the time of their marriage he was a school master,no address given,just Middleton.
And of coarse the worst news ever for me
his father was John Jones Whitworth,not Samuel,as i believed for the last 6 months!!!!!!!
His father was a "tinner"
Ann's father was John Parker,a watchmaker.
Their witnesses where James Fawley & "Nanny" Smith.
So thats it ,back to the drawing board,although at this moment in time i feel like chucking in the towel!!!!!!!
My aim for this tree was to try & trace my Whitworths back to the town,but at the moment thats looking less & less likely. kind regards a totally de-moralized Lisa xxx

Lisa

Lisa Report 20 May 2009 07:00

still awaiting marriage cert,will keep you informed.kind regards Lisaxxxxx

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 May 2009 06:49

Hi Guys,its no good,im gonna get my husband to send for the marriage cert for Robert Jones Whitworth & Ann Parker,then i will know 100%,watch this space!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lisa

Lisa Report 11 May 2009 22:02

Sorry guys,i do believe this family is sending me quite mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 May 2009 16:00

Ann Parker married Robert Jones Whitworth Ashton &c vol20 p23

Ashton was the reg district for Middleton

the William p55 married Martha Mann

cf lancashirebmd.org.uk

see your post p4 - William was the name of their son b1843

Dea

Dea Report 3 May 2009 20:16

I AM working on it Lisa !!

I really think we have two families here but haven't sorted anything useful yet!!

Will keep at it and come back to you.

Dea x

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 May 2009 22:58

no problems - good luck with your searching

Lisa

Lisa Report 1 May 2009 22:05

Thanks for looking Ann,much appreciated,im going to Manchester/Bury in June,got to goo to Manchester records office anyway regarding another line,so i'll take a look then,again thanks anyway,kind regards Lisaxxx

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 May 2009 14:43

guess which years are missing in Lancs CRO!!!! even though the catalgue says they are there
1816-1820, 1842 & 1855-59
Murphy's law

there are originals I think at Manchester.Maybe it would be worth contacting them.

Lisa

Lisa Report 1 May 2009 07:45

Sorry deleted info by mistake
Robert Jones Whitworth b1818 ish,no def record found ,birthplace Ashton-u-Lyne
married Ann Parker 1842 AUL
child;William whitworth b1843 AUL
2nd spouse
Mary Hobson nee Greensmith in 1858,AUL
Roberts father named on 2nd marriage record on Ancestry
Samuel Whitworth
But Rochdale Library say on their microfilm it says Roberts father is John Jones Whitworth

kind regards Lisaxxx

Lisa

Lisa Report 26 Apr 2009 19:42

Hi Ann,yes thats it,im really confused now,as i said above,all census records show approx same ages of sam,so 1801 as a marriage date is way too early,but i cant find another.