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hi my elderly aunt asked if i could find any information about her father.A Francis melody dob 9/5/1899 in distict walmgate of york.shortend version of birth certificate.Apparently grew up in a orphanage at newcastle was adopted (or taken ) at age of 14 by a woman and put to work in mines alongside many other boys.story was he had been left outside of orphanage .any ideas as how to proceed
thanks
maureen

Name: Francis Melody
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: York
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 39

thanks eric i have never ordered a certificate how do i go about it please?

Maureen, do read the Absolute Basics thread which will tell you how to order and also lots of other basic research help.

Eric has kindly looked up the birth cert ref for you on freebmd.org - which you can use yourself for free.

The details given are the ones you will need to order the cert for £7 from GRO online:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

when you go there, register and then click on the event of the cert - in this case Birth and remember to tick the box that asks if you have the GRO ref (you have, its what is given above). Then follow through the ordering process.

If you have an exact birth date which is correct ? , I think the abandoned outside an orphanage story is unlikely and starting work at 14 was normal for boys then. But you will get the certificate quickly and hopefully find parent names which would be wonderful for your aunt as you can then hopefully folow backwards to find her ancestry.

tyvm for the information heather appreciate it.
cheers

thanks both eric and heather i have just finished ordering birth certificate
maureen

Hope it comes back with at least one parent on it for auntie.

if it doesnt ,is there any option to proceed?

found this in 1911

HOUSEHOLD MELODY FRANCIS M 1898 13 Manchester Lancashire

The 1911 one was born in Lancashire:

Record
Francis Melody 1898 Jan-Feb-Mar Chorlton Lancashire

Parents Frank + Elizabeth A on 1901.

Dea x

thanks but had the right one Name: Francis Melody
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: York
County: Yorkshire - East Riding, Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 39 ...just wondering if showed no parents .is there no way of finding out? was brought up in an orphanage in newcastle
thanks anyway


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Hi all ..got certificate today .
mother shows as mary melody living at 8 longclose lane york ,occupation a laundress,found her on 1901 census .Melody
Relation to Head of Family Prisoner
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Laundress
Employment Status
Where Born Yorkshire York
Language
Infirmity
and states she is a prisoner to head of family is this alternative to servant ?
there is also a mary melody in 1891 in york but age doesnt match ,do you think would still be same mary?

look forward to ant ideas
kind regards
maureen

Maureen,

Whatever way you look at it - a 'prisoner' is a 'prisoner' !!

She is an inmate in His Majesty's Prison !!!

Dea x

ohhhhh wonder what shes doing in 1911 any1 fancy a look?

I enjoy the digging and delving into the past but sometimes its sad like this when your aunts father had to be brought up in an orphanage because his mother was in prison! Does is say on cert who his father was, sometime between his birth and 2yrs old he was put in the orphanage, wonder where his father was? Does anyone know if there is anyway to find out about the orphanage in Newcastle? for papers etc

no tracey no father named on certificate.very sad i wonder if there is a way to find out what she did ,makes you very interested doesnt it ,has me enthralled.
kind regards
maureen

Hopefully someone will be along soon to help, i haven't the foggiest where to look i did google for newcastle orphange and instituitions came up, i'm better leaving it to the experts on here. Yes indeed I do love a good read at interesting stories and would love to find out what she done to end up in prison, I wonder how long she served and did she ever go looking for her son?

Couldn't see her on the 1911. Unfortunately there is this death which at 27 would be the right age.

Deaths Jun 1902
Melody Mary 27 York 9d 27

There are a couple of possibilities on the 1881 census (free to search at www.familysearch.org)

I wonder if this could be another child who died soon after birth?

Births Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Melody Mary Elizabeth York 9d 60

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Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Melody Mary Elizabeth 0 York 9d 41

This could be Mary in 1881, age matches 1901.



Michael MELLODY Head M Male 88 Ireland Ag Labourer
Ann MELLODY Wife M Female 80 Ireland
John MELLODY Son U Male 25 York, York, England Ag Labourer
James MELLODY Son U Male 18 York, York, England Ag Labourer
Patrick MELLODY Son U Female 16 York, York, England Ag Labourer
Ann MELLODY Daur Female 12 York, York, England Scholar
<<<<< Mary MELLODY Daur Female 6 York, York, England Scholar


Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Johnsons Buildings
Census Place York St Margaret Walmgate, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342142
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4724 / 128
Page Number 30

It appears that the parents ages have been transcribed wrong or all the children are grandchildren of Michael and Ann.

I can't look at the original image as my sub has run out with Ancestry.

Christine