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hi tracey
have amended my post must have got carried away i.m in cloud cookoo land with this branch lol
thanks

hi tracey
i.m beginning to think your right that they never did get married so i guess its ends here really but at least we gave it our best shot lol also ancestry is down again its been doing it alot lately so can.t do anything till it comes back on lol i.m off to check now see if its up & running again but i just want to say thank you so much for all the time & help you & others have given me on this branch of my tree
jacky

Jacky

You need to ammend your post, you have Thomas listed as a Hewitt, when he's a Peckitt lol...

Your excitement/frustration is getting the better of you lol



Tracey x

Well firstly, it's the right cert... amongst other things i was worried it wouldn't be, so at least we have established she exists.

Now you have an issue... didn't we think he's been married before? You do have the common issue that he may not have been free to marry and they just said they were..... I have a few of those. In fact if you ever get a spare half hour read my thread on Annie Liggins, lol.... she 'wed' 3 times sadly the middle marriage (my partners GGfather) was a fake and she just said they were , even lying on the 1911 census!!! She did however marry her 3rd man, even tho the first was still alive.... and in true hollywood style the first hubby outlived everyone, and she dissapears into nowhere!!

Soi know from very bitter experience and loads of credits, they do this....often!


Tracey x

hi victoria
well where do i start lol i think the next stage is to try & find the PECKETT/PECKITT & HEWITT marriage ELIZABETH HEWITT married my gt uncle HENRY CROMACK i got cert & it states her father was THOMAS HEWITT so i have been lookin for her in the census & come up with a few possibles nothing concrete in the 1881 census she is now married to HENRY CROMACK with her daughter also on the census so got daughters marriage cert to see who the father was this also gave me ELIZABETH.S hubbys name THOMAS but we can.t find a marriage for THOMAS & ELIZABETH
jacky

this is intriguing...
so many answers, can you summarize what you know so far as bullet points?

hi all
well ANN/ANNIE ELIZA PECKETT birth cert arrived this morning & another brick wall i.m afraid its states she was born 1869 leeds & her birth registerd in 1870 leeds we have right details for father who was THOMAS PECKETT occupation cab driver would this be the same as a coachman as that is what is on ANNIE E PECKETT marriage cert now here comes the puzzle bit i thought her mother ELIZABETH HEWITT had been married before she married THOMAS PECKETT but on the birth cert of her daughter ANNIE E PECKETT it says ELIZABETH PECKETT formaly HEWITT so she did,t marry befor him but what we can.t find is the marriage of any THOMAS PECKETT to a ELIZABETH HEWITT just thought i would up date you all on where we are at now
thanks
jacky
ps if anyone does come across a marriage for THOMAS PECKETT & ELIZABETH HEWITT please please let me know

Look at this !!!

Births Mar 1870
PECKETT Ann Eliza Leeds 9b 474

Got to be the nearest thing we have so far??


Hmmmm


Tracey x

I think it's now fairly safe to assume the Annie Elizabeth was not born as a Peckitt officially.

It is however possible her parents did not register her birth, as compulsary registration was not in force until 1875.

So you either have an unregistered child or one that was born under another name.

Now we did find the Hewitt/Croser/Crossley marriage, and also a Crossley birth of an Annie E, i wonder if that is a punt?

It's sadly a very small needle in a very large haystack. I'm free for a few hours and going to go over all the Hewiit marriages in the right timeframe and try to find them on the census returns and see what comes up.

My most likely start is all those families with an Annie E listed being born Leeds 1970 and with a mother called Elizabeth and go from there!



Tracey x

hi tracey
its now 15.22 & i have been searching all this time for annie eliza peckitt.s birth under alsorts of names lol but still nothing i did however find her with her 2nd husband john rennison todd on the 1911 census & it says she was born woodhouse in leeds west yorkshire so tried putting in annie eliza in search & traweled through all them but still nothing jumping out gerrrrr not sure where to go next
i also found the thomas peckitt who married the elizabeth from langton yorkshire they had a daughter called jane so think that is the wrong one also gerrrrrrr
i now have to call it a day to get on with tea as i have been on this all day maybe when i check back later with a fresh head something will jump out i will check back later thanks for all your help
jacky

ok tracey thank you so much for all your help don.t work too hard as you have worked enough on this lol
jacky

That one is the one i think is the right one....

As with the 1851 i have posted... I wonder what has happened to the other children?

It's the 1851 with the grandparents i was questioning.

Jacky, i have to go to work now... but i'll be back on the trail later.!! Sorry we didn't get any further forward, except maybe find a Annie E Crossley and a Crossley marriage?

Tracey x

hi tracey
so we don.t think this is them in 1841 as there is a samuel also on this one


1841 England Census
about Samuel Hewitt
Name: Samuel Hewitt
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Malpas
Hundred: Broxton (Higher Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub registration district: Wrenbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Hewitt 35
Hannah Hewitt 30
Sarah Hewitt 13
Fanny Hewitt 10
Mary Hewitt 8
Samuel Hewitt 6
Elizth Hewitt 4
Thos Hewitt 1

Right going back to basics,

Elizabeth
Christening: 10 JUL 1836 Malpas, Cheshire, England

Parents:
Father: Thomas Hewitt Family
Mother: Hannah

Submitted record, but looks good. The Elizabeth you have in 1841 i don't think is her.

This is an 1851 census with an Elizabeth listed, with a brother Samuel and also an Ann (Possible for Hannah) all lodgers.

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Hewitt
Name: Elizabeth Hewitt
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Dukinfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub registration district: Dukinfield

John Mess 38
William Mess 12
James Mess 10
Hannah Mess 7
John Mess 5
Ann Hewit 42
Jonathan Goodier 19
Elizabeth Hewitt 17
Samuel Hewitt 15

Still trying to unravel this one slowly....

Looking for them in 1861 now.


Tracey

right i.m back so even getting hold of ANNIE E PECKITT/PICKETT.S birth cert looks doubtful as we don.t know what her surname was for sure
jacky

tracey
my mum has just arrived so i will make her a cuppa & i.l be back i have not deserted you lol brb
thank you for all your help though
jacky

and there was 2 edward crossley that died between 1864 & 1871 when she married thomas peckitt

But that marriage was also in Yorkshire....wasn't it?

So we maybe need to go back a step and discount all the Elizabeth Hewitt marriages in Cheshire?


Tracey

well we did find the marraige of elizabeth hewitt to edward crossley in 1864 did.t we so could be a possible so at some point she may have moved to leeds from cheshire
jacky

What do you think of this one?

Births Jun 1870
Crossley Annie Elizabeth Leeds 9b 565


Tracey x