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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 23:12 |
thanks ozi that's amazing that you've been able to find that for me, plenty for me to go at!
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10 Jan 2009 23:10 |
Well that should do you for a while.
I've got to go now.
Ozi.
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10 Jan 2009 23:00 |
This looks like relatives, father & brother?: 1841 England Census Name: Thomas Copland Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Biddulph Hundred: North Pirehill County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: Gillowheath Occupation: independent
Registration district: Congleton Sub registration district: Congleton Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Levi Copland 25 - coal miner. Martha Copland 25 Hannah Copland 2 Henry Copland 1 Thomas Copland 60
Results for: Father: Thomas Copeland, Mother: Hannah Batch Number: P020901 1. LEVI COPLAND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 13 OCT 1816 Biddulph, Stafford, England 2. STEPHEN COPLAND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 AUG 1824 Biddulph, Stafford, England
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10 Jan 2009 22:49 |
1851 England Census Name: Stephan Copeland Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Odd Rode County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Street address: Mount Pleasant Mow Occupation: coal miner Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Congleton Sub registration district: Sandbach ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Stephan Copeland 26 Ann Copeland 24 - coal miner; Biddulph Joseph Copeland 5 - scholar George Copeland 2 - at home
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Ozibird
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10 Jan 2009 22:41 |
Because he's visiting rellies with his new wife.
1871 England Census Name: John Henry Copeland Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Cousin Gender: Male Where born: Mowcop, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Burslem Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Burslem County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: 46 Enoch St Occupation: coal miner Condition as to marriage: married
Registration district: Wolstanton Sub registration district: Burslem ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age Henry Windsor 32 Eliza Windsor 34 Ann Eliza Windsor 6 John Henry Copeland 20 Hannah Copeland 20 - potter's transferer; Burslem
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10 Jan 2009 22:37 |
1861 England Census Name: John H Copeland Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Son Father's Name: Stephen Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Odd Road, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Norton Ecclesiastical parish: Smallthorne St Saviour County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: Find Green Occupation:
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 223 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Copeland 36 - coal miner; Biddulph Ann Copeland 34 - Biddulph Joseph W Copeland 15 - coal miner; Biddulph George Copeland 12 - coal miner [poor mite]; Biddulph John H Copeland 9 - Odd Road, Cheshire Enos Copeland 7 - Odd Road, CheshireHannah Copeland 6 Stephen Copeland 2 - Norton, Cheshire Levi Copeland 1 - Norton, Cheshire
John H is not with family. 1871 England Census Name: Stephen Copland Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Biddulph, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Norton Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Smallthorne County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: Leek Rd Occupation: coal miner
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Copland 46 Ann Copland 44 George Copland 22 Eneas Copland 17 Hannah Copland 16 Stephen Copland 12 Levi Copland 11 Rubin Copland 9 Arnest Copland 8 Robert Copland 6 Sarah Copland 4 Franck Copland 1 [Francis on image]
Births ar as before except from Stephen jnr to Francis born Smallthorne.
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 22:21 |
ozi my dear it's entirely up to you
thanks so much though, frantically puttin it in ym tree now lol
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10 Jan 2009 22:17 |
Marriages Mar 1871 Copeland John Henry Wolstanton 6b 113 Hackney Hannah Wolstanton 6b 113 Higginson Joseph Wolstanton 6b 113 Hood Ellen Wolstanton 6b 113
Remember you have to prove this info with certificates.
Do you want me to keep following John H?
Ozi.
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10 Jan 2009 22:15 |
1881 England Census Name: John H. Copeland Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Mow Cop, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Smallthorne County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: 4 Back St (B) Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Coal Miner
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John H. Copeland 29 Hannah Copeland 26 Stephen Copeland 8 Frances Copeland 3 Edna Copeland 5 mo John Perry 24 - lodger
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 22:11 |
oh ozi thats amazing thank you so much
it really is appreciated, got quite down earlier when it became apparent my nana wasn't going to help me further
thanks again
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10 Jan 2009 22:09 |
1891 England Census Name: Stephen Copeland Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's Name: John H Mother's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Norton in The Moors Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Smallthorne County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: 32 Camp Rd Occupation: coal miner Condition as to marriage: single
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John H Copeland 40 - coal miner; Mow Cop, Chester!!!! Hannah Copeland 38 - Burslem Stephen Copeland 18 Frances Copeland 13 - dressmaker's apprentice Ada Copeland 10 - scholar Hannah Copeland 8 - scholar John H Copeland 2
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10 Jan 2009 22:07 |
At 66 Camp Road: 1901 England Census Name: John Henry Copeland Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Smallthorne Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Smallthorne County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: Occupation: Stone Quarry miner Condition as to marriage: widowed
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Household Members: Name Age John Henry Copeland 49 Francis Copeland 23 - daughter; Potter's transferer Hannah Copeland 18 - feebleminded 4 years Sarah J Copeland 13 - Potter's transferer John H Copeland 12 - School Thomas Copeland 8 - School
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 22:06 |
wow ozi
thanks for that again
you're being very helpful it's very much appreciated
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10 Jan 2009 21:59 |
Marriages Jun 1895 Cooper Eliza Stoke T. 6b 292 Copeland Stephen Stoke T. 6b 292 Holland Sarah Ellen Stoke T. 6b 292 Slater George Henry Stoke T. 6b 292
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 21:59 |
Looks like I'm not getting any further help from my nana due to family issues, so looks like Im on my own!
There is some hope tho, my nana's her brother and his wife. Going to arrange to go and see them with my dad at some point, so not all hope is lost.
And Claire has very kindly found me amelia, her parents and 2 siblings on the 1901 census :D
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10 Jan 2009 21:57 |
1901 England Census Name: Amelis Copeland [Amelia Copeland] Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Stephen Mother's Name: Sarah E Gender: Female Where born: Smallthorne, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Smallthorne Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Town: Smallthorne County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Street address: 64 Camp Rd Occupation:
Registration district: Leek Sub registration district: Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Copeland 27 - coal miner; Smallthorne Sarah E Copeland 28 - Burslem George T Copeland 5 Amelis Copeland 3 Florence Copeland 1
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 21:17 |
Hi Claire thanks so much.
That should be her.
I've just found her on the 1901 census as being aged 3 at smallthorne, is there any chance you can view that, I don't have any credits or anything?
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10 Jan 2009 20:32 |
Amelia Copeland born 1898 Smallthorne Staffordshire? Daughter of Stephen Copeland & his wife Sarah Ellen Holland?
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Jeeberella
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10 Jan 2009 20:17 |
Just nudging in the hope someone can help further :D
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10 Jan 2009 17:02 |
After speaking to my nana I've found this out:
Amelia Copeland was born 8th January 1898 George Wakelin born 1901 sounds about right, as he died when my nana was 14/15 so 1949 / 1950 (although I can't find this on bmd). He went to school in Normacot, but did live in Elm Street, Cobridge, Stoke On Trent
George and Amelia lived @ 40 Chatwin Street, Smallthorne, Stoke On Trent
2 years later Amelia married Joe Martin and they moved to 20 Sparrow Street, Smallthorne, Stoke On Trent, where Joe was already living. So this would have been early 50's (1952-4)
She thinks Amelia's mother was Ellen as it's a family name, possible maiden name of Goodwin.
She's given me her siblings details, but will not be chasing those avenues.
I know this info is patchy at best, but any help would be very much appreciated
Thanks Natasha :D
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