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Hi Everyone

Wondering if you could help me, I've hit a brick wall on my dad's side of the family. So here's what I've got:

All Stoke On Trent / Staffordshire

Dad's parents
Arnold Tideswell Born 1934 died 1994
Florence Wakelin Born 1935

Arnold's parents:

Ernest Tideswell born 1869
Winifred Ashley born about 1915

The massive age gap is correct

I have looked at the trees on here but can't find anything - any ideas?

Alos looking for Florence's parents and further details:
George Wakelin b: circa 1880
Amelia Copeland b: circa 1870

Amelia second husband was Joe Martin b: circa 1890


Thanks

Natasha

found these

2. Ernest C. TIDESWELL - 1881 British Census / Stafford
Son Gender: Male Birth: Alton, Stafford, England

3. Ernest TIDESWELL - 1881 British Census / Stafford
Son Gender: Female Birth: Burslem, Stafford, England

Matches: Census/1881 British Census - 3

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International Genealogical Index - British Isles
4. Ernest Tideswell - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 APR 1890 St John, Burslem, Stafford, England

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 1

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Pedigree Resource File
5. Ernest C Tideswell - Pedigree Resource File
Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1879 Alton

thanks ann, are those on family search? I'm sure there wasn't anything in there last time I looked!

Thanks though, got a bit carried away with my mum's side so haven't really done much on my dad's side.

But that helps thanks

Could you possibly send me the links to those? I can't seem to find what you're finding :S

1871 census
Name ERNEST TIDSWELL
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household SON
Occupation Juvenile
Address 116 Navigation Road
District Burslem, Wolstanton
Parish
Administrative County Staffordshire
Birth Place Burslem
Birth County STAFFORDSHIRE
in house
james e tidswell head 39
thomas wife 36
victoria j 10
wallace 8
frank 5
ernest 15 months
james 16
thomas 14
possible 1871

thanks helen that's definately my grandad thank u

thanks snapdragon, that could very well be him, but can't be 100% sure

thanks tho :D

I suppose you've got this.

Marriages Sep 1925
Copeland Amelia Wakelin Stoke T. 6b 458
Maxfield Samuel Rafferty Stoke T. 6b 458
Rafferty Sarah A Maxfield Stoke T. 6b 458
WAKELIN George Copeland Stoke T. 6b 458


Are you guessing at their ages?

hi ozibird, no i haven't got that. Those are rough dob's from my nana from what she can remember! She's in her 70's bless her so her memory isn't so great

those dob's must be wrong otherwise she had my nana when she was 65 lol! i'm guessing they will be closer to the 1900 mark if they got married in 1925

poss connection - 1881 census

Emmeline Jane Elizabeth Cowpland Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 APR 1841 Weeford, Stafford, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Robert Cowpland Family
Mother: Mrs Jane Cowpland

thanks ann - talk about spelling it as you say it!

my postings are off Mormon LDS

sry to be a pain ann

do you mean the familysearch.org website or a different one?

if it's the family search, could you possibly pm me the links of where u got that info from? I can't seem to find it anywhere :S

There are 156 Copelands in the Stoke on Trent area in the 1901 census (no Amelia), so don't get too excited.

Only Amelias born Staffordshire that I can find. However she may not have been born in Staffordshire.

Births Sep 1875
COPELAND Amelia Ann Leek 6b 287
Births Sep 1886
Copeland Amelia Cannock 6b 494
Births Mar 1898
COPELAND Amelia Leek 6b 309

thanks ozibird

that marriage does look right though, wakelin and copeland, years add up as well

i've found a goerge wakelin in bmd born 1901 in stoke as well, so I;m thinking the dates my nana gave me are wrong, and maybe rough date for her grandparents instead!

There is this birth:

Births Sep 1901
Wakelin George Stoke T. 6b 288

cheers ozi that's the one I've just found too!

If it's not them then it's a ruddy big coincidence.

my nana was born in 1935 which would make sense as amelia would have been 37 and not 65!

The 1901 seems the best bet.

There is this family in 1901 but you need to get the marriage cert to confirm father. Perhaps your grandmother may have it.

1901 England Census
Name: William G Wakelin
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Longton
Ecclesiastical parish: Normacot Holy Evangelist
Town: Longton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
William G Wakelin 29
Harriet Wakelin 27
John Wakelin 3
Eliza Wakelin 1

cheers ozi

I'm going to speak to my nana again tomorrow, but if I remember rightly she hasn't got any documentation unfortunately, but I'll double check just to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your help though, I know i've been a pain by having the wrong dates, I dont know why I never realised before they must be wrong!

After speaking to my nana I've found this out:

Amelia Copeland was born 8th January 1898
George Wakelin born 1901 sounds about right, as he died when my nana was 14/15 so 1949 / 1950 (although I can't find this on bmd). He went to school in Normacot, but did live in Elm Street, Cobridge, Stoke On Trent

George and Amelia lived @ 40 Chatwin Street, Smallthorne, Stoke On Trent

2 years later Amelia married Joe Martin and they moved to 20 Sparrow Street, Smallthorne, Stoke On Trent, where Joe was already living. So this would have been early 50's (1952-4)

She thinks Amelia's mother was Ellen as it's a family name, possible maiden name of Goodwin.

She's given me her siblings details, but will not be chasing those avenues.

I know this info is patchy at best, but any help would be very much appreciated

Thanks Natasha :D

Just nudging in the hope someone can help further :D