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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 1 Jan 2009 22:21

Happy New Year to you all!

Hope you don't mind a new years day request but am looking for any information on a Thomas Sambrooks, born cc1840 but that was a rough guess on my behalf. Son named George Sambrooks born cc1867 in Burton on Trent but generally based around the Warwickshire area I think. Quite possible George was born out of wedlock so making tracking his mother quite difficult and also his father who is the person I am trying to trace also.

Maybe nothing anyone can offer but thanks for any help you can give :) x

Andrew

Andrew Report 1 Jan 2009 22:41

Is this the correct family?

1871 England Census
about George Sambrook
Name: George Sambrook
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Colwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Haywood
Town: Great Haywood
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Stafford
Sub registration district: Colwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Sambrook 27
Sarah Ann Sambrook 25
George Sambrook 6
Sarah Ann Sambrook 3
Emily Ellen Sambrook 2


Andy

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 2 Jan 2009 08:58

Hello Andy,

Yes I think that could be the right family thank you. Was also offered some information on an older post of mine:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1109376&jump=5721106#5721106

Trying to work out why the children don't match up on both entries!

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 10:49

Marriages Mar 1890
Allen Elizabeth Stafford 6b 20
>>>>CARTWRIGHT Robert Stafford 6b 20
Chatfield Herbert Stafford 6b 20
>>>>Sambrook Emily Ellen Stafford 6b 20


1891 England Census
Name: Emily Ellen Cartwright
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Stafford, England
Civil Parish: Ollerton [Allerton]
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: May Cottage, Bacon Hill Road

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cartwright 28 - gardener; York
Emily Ellen Cartwright 22
Harry Cartwright 3


1901 England Census
Name: Emily E Cartwright
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 34 Tramway Road
Occupation:

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cartwright 38 - gardener; York
Emily E Cartwright 32
Harda Cartwright 10 [Harold on image]
Agnes E Cartwright 8
Jessie Cartwright 6
Mabel Cartwright 3
Florence M Cartwright 1

I wish I could find her in 1881!

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 2 Jan 2009 22:06

Hello Ozibird,

Did you mean this post for me?! Confused me a little!

Kirsty

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 22:29

Yes. You wanted to know what happened to the girls between censuses. I found Emily info.

Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 22:38

???
1881 England Census about Sarah A. Soudrook
Name: Sarah A. Soudrook
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Yardley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Warwick Rd
Occupation: General Serv

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel: 12b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Herbert Leaman 23
Emma A. Leaman 23
Robert Leaman 4 mo
Elizth A. Smith 22
Sarah A. Soudrook 13

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 22:41

Marriages Sep 1890
Bromley Harriet Stafford 6b 20
Carless George Henry Stafford 6b 20
>>>Powell Samuel Albert Stafford 6b 20
>>>Sambrook Sarah Ann Stafford 6b 20

1891 England Census about Sarah A Powell
Name: Sarah A Powell
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel A
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary and St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Stafford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 42 Browning Street
Occupation:

Registration district: Stafford
Sub registration district: Stafford
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel A Powell 25 - shoemaker
Sarah A Powell 24
Samuel P Powell 1/12

Samuels are both born Stafford.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 22:57

This is the best I can get for Emily in 1881. There's no other Ellen Sambrook born about that time for the Stoke/Stafford area.

1881 England Census
Name: Ellen Sambrook
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Goldenhill, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hinstock
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: High Heath

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Hodnet
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos. Morgan 55
Margret Morgan 56
Ellen Sambrook 14

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 2 Jan 2009 22:58

Thank you but I am not sure these are the right people?

Emily Ellen's parents were Thomas Sambrook or Sambrooks and Sarah Ann Kitchen.

Emily's siblings were George, Sarah Ann, Agnes, John, Jessie and Florence I think :) x

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 2 Jan 2009 23:00

Oh I see!! This is where Email marries and moves else where? Sorry, bit slow on the uptake this evening! Thank you! x

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:07

Emily Ellen is fairly easy to follow as her birth & marriage is the only Emily Ellen Sambrook/e/es on freebmd for the whole of England & Wales.

I'll follow that Morgan lead to see if there's a connection.

Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:13

Ho Ho

Marriages Jun 1850
Millington Martha M Drayton 18 209
>>>Morgan Thomas Mt Drayton 18 209
>>>Sandbrook Margaret Drayton Mt 18 209 [Is this Sambrook?]
Simmons William Mt Drayton 18 209

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:35

1841 England Census
Name: Margaret Sambrook
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hinstock
Hundred: North Bradford (Drayton Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Hodnet
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Sambrook 65 - bricklayer
Eliza Sambrook 60
Thomas Sambrook 24
Margaret Sambrook 19
James Sambrook 16

There's also a 23 year old George Sambrook, bricklayer, & family on the previous page.

Also a 63 year old Thomas Sambrook, bricklayer, & wife.



Looks like Margaret got younger as she got older, if you know what I mean.
1851 England Census
Name: Margret Morgan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Hinstock, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Hinstock
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: Hinstock
Occupation:

Registration district: Market Drayton
Sub registration district: Moreton Say
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Morgan 25 - carpenter; Hinstock
Margret Morgan 29

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 2 Jan 2009 23:45

This looks like Thomas. Penkridge is the reg'n district for Cannock.

Births Sep 1845
Sambrook Thomas Penkridge 17 115


Hatherton is on the outskirts of Cannock.

1851 England Census
Name: Thomas Sambrook
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Gender: Male
Where born: Hatherton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hatherton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Village of Hatherton
Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Penkridge
Sub registration district: Penkridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Sambrook 46 - married; ag lab
Caroline Sambrook 18 - daughter
William Sambrook 11
Fredrick Sambrook 9
Thomas Sambrook 7
Harriat Sambrook 5

The previous household is a 76 year old Elizabeth Sambrook, widow, with adult sons Thomas & James. Is this the Eliza, mother of Margaret in 1841? She had brother Thomas & James.


This may be Edward's wife.
1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Sambrook
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Seacroft, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Cannock
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Seacroft
Occupation: ag lab

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Penkridge
Sub registration district: Penkridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hill 39
Mary Hill 32
Eliza Hill 10
Emely Hill 2
Sarah Sambrook 42

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:03

1841 England Census
Name: Edward Sambrook
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Handworth With Soho
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Booth Street
Occupation: labourer

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: Handsworth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Sambrook 30
Sarah Sambrook 30
Lucy Sambrook 12
Caroline Sambrook 8
Samuel Sambrook 7
William Sambrook 1

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:14

This is transcribed from a parish register:
IGI Individual Record
EDWARD SAMBROOK
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH FORSTER
26 MAY 1828 Saint Matthew, Walsall, Stafford, England

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 00:27

All info for children with capital letters is from parish records. Non-capital letters has been submitted by a member of CLDS. This member may be guessing or they may have trawled through earlier records that are not online. You'll have to check for yourself.


Results for:
Birth/Christening, England, British Isles
Father: Edward Sambrook, Mother: Sarah
1. Lucy Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1829 Handsworth, Stafford, England
2. Caroline Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1833 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England
3. Samuel Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1834 Handsworth, Stafford, England
4. JOHN SAMBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 MAY 1838 Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford, England
5. William Sambrook - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1840 Handsworth, Stafford, England
6. THOMAS SAMBROOKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JAN 1844 Cannock, Stafford, England
7. HARRIET SAMBROOK - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JUN 1846 Cannock, Stafford, England
8. SARAH ANNE SAMBROOKE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 MAR 1851 Cannock, Stafford, England

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 3 Jan 2009 01:18

Kirsty,

On your other thread I posted this:

In 1881 Emily is transcribed as Ellen Lanbrook.

Rose

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 3 Jan 2009 09:14

Where's the Johnson family come in, Rose? I thought Thomas married a Sarah Ann Kitchen.

Ozi.

Marriages Jun 1867
CARDWELL William Stoke T. 6b 264
FORRESTER Eliza Ann Stoke T. 6b 264
>>>KITCHEN Sarah Ann Stoke T. 6b 264
>>>Sambrock Thomas Stoke T. 6b 264