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sorry took so long to reply,but have got the flu
Winnifred married Alfred Ernest Peters in Canada he was in the Canadian army,and Winnifred was born in Barnet,Douglas and one of his sisters were born in Canada

Well done

Vera M Peters Stone Kerrier Sept qtr 1937 5c 379

Edward G Stone

Thats going to be it, I guess

Edward GORDON Stone I'll bet.

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Maybe you could have told us atthe outset, that parents were married in Canada,and when.
That would have given us a time frame, at least.
Maybe Vera was born in Canada?
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There are 2 obvious Vera M Stone deaths in cornwall, one 2005 other 1999.

both are listed as Vera MAY Stone

Hi Minnie,that does look good i think my cousin said her mum who was winnifred was 19 or there abouts when she got married and Vera was the oldest so i think she may have been born in Canada along with her brother Douglas,cant make the date out of Alfreds enlistment papers but winnifred is his next of kin

it could be the 1999 but not sure about that

ive tried putting in search for there daughter of vera but nothing has come up

Hi Dutch, What you may need is to check the births aboard the Indexing books that were in London and now in Plymouth and which we can view on line, I will see if I can find anything.

The only way you will know if Vera born in W Ham is your Vera is to get the birth certificate.

The other way is where they were living look at the Elec Rolls Vera if she was as home when she was 21 would be included. No Elec Rolls in the War. You may not need an Address just the parish as some Elec Rolls are in name alpherbetical and some under Street.

Irene

Hi Irene
my cousin said that Vera was the eldest so im thinking she was born in Canada i know Douglas was,Vera was,nt living at home when my dad took me to visit she was already married with two children in Kerrier or Helston,does that help any,and thank you all for your time trying to help me,that was round 1945-46

Hi Dutch, another important bit of information Vera was living in Kerrier when you visited. Thats where the Stone married, Amazing what you do know when you start to recall, I know it would be easier for us if you put it all down at the start but we don't always remember those little bits. If you have a book or even on the computer write all the details down that you have now given us. with the names of the children and add to it as you go don't forget to add the years. You will get a much better pictures.

I have look for births overseas and so far I haven't found Vera or Douglas, so was Alfred Canadian as well do you think, was Winifred or even your dad (what is your dad's surname).

We had one in our extented family who was in the Canadian Army in 1913, but I suppose they could then as it was part of the Empire!! It may be worth writing/emailing the army and asking if they would have records of marriages and births. Also where could you find them if they haven't

Irene

so could Gordon have been Vera's husbands second name, do you think?

maybe his first name WAS Edward,and he prefered Gordon, for everyday use.

Anyone got the time to search for an Yvonne Stone, born Kerrier, mmn ( Peters?) sorry lost the plot a bit

Dutch

Now looked in the Births and Marriages overseas 1912-1920, couldn't find anything for Alfred mind you some of the pages were very poor and couldn't read them.

Any ideas what Winifred was doing out in Canada had her parents gone out there.

Irene

Minnie

I did start to Look for Yvonne Stone last night but it was late so didn't get very far. I will see what I can do later,

Dutch

Can you remember would Yvonne be around your age 1939? I may have got that completely wrong (worked our your age of course). Or older or younger this would give me an idea of when to start looking.

The other thing that may help is can your Auntie remember when her sister Vera died or had she lost touch.

Turns out the marriage was in 1914 so that 1912 birth for Vera isn't looking so good.

Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924
about Alfred Ernest Peters
Name: Alfred Ernest Peters
Birth Place: Cornwall England
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Father Name: William Thomas Peters
Mother Name: Emily Jordon Peters
Spouse Name: Winfrid Morgan
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Spouse Birth Place: High Barnet London Engalnd
Spouse Father Name: Melcolm Bennett
Spouse Mother Name: Nellie Tyler
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1914
Marriage Place: Nipissing District
Marriage County: Nipissing
Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_316

Rose

Travelling with a Winifred who was listed as 30?. Heading to Harringey.

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Vera Peters
Name: Vera Peters
Birth Date: abt 1916
Age: 6/12
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 4 Sep 1916
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Missanabie
Search Ship Database: View the 'Missanabie' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136705

Rose

excellent - so Vera WAS born in Canada -( or on the sea between Canada & UK I suppose)


alfs birth

Peters Alfred Ernest Helston 5c 167 jun qtr 1892

Dutch I bet you are please with this last find good on you Portland Rose, now you have more information to add to your list.

The other thing I have been doing have you search for trees on this site, if you search using the year of birth with 5 years around and look at the cornwall ones there are a few with dates of birth around the times that your cousins were born. It may be worth sending them a message

I found one for a William St Ives Cornwall 1921

and Alfred
1 in 1926 in Millbrook Cornwall
2 1925 Cornwall

so it may be worth getting in touch, you never know.

Irene

This looks to be Winifred on her way to Toronto.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Winifred Morgan
Name: Winifred Morgan
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Date of Arrival: 29 Aug 1913
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4803

Rose

Portland Rose .thank you so much realy please with the information you found,im going to print this out but my cousin Edna is the last one living of my dads family,and just rememberd Douglas died about 18mths ago and his son died this year ,and thank you all for your help
Dutchx

i was born in 1940 mybe she was 2-3yrs older than me ,but its that long ago i cant remember

Dutch thats ok it will be near enough. Hope you are feeling better


Irene

thanks Irene ive got all my hubbys family for xmas dinner,so hoping to shift this cough and cold,ive looked on latter day saints for yvonne but come up blank,and Haringay was were her grandparents lived,going back to bed now but will reply latter on