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Help to find death

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Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 20:21

yes arnt they all...

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 20:08

thanx

ahh another one you have to pay for lol

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:56

it,s findmypast.com will find it in births marriages etc or find out what ship he served on and the will hold records mearchant or royal

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:49

where can i find this information what site do you use to check if ppl were buried at sea i have a very naval family would be interesting to see if any of them crop up

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:47

thanx for your help at least i think we have his death now

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:43

Burial at sea

If there is no suspicion of foul play, if for a reason it is not possible to retain the body, or if so requested by next-of-kin, the body may buried at sea. In this case, it is not necessary do more than to lay the body on a flat surface, straighten the legs and arms, and interlock the fingers over the thighs. The hair should be brushed off the forehead, the face washed, and the jaw secured by passing a bandage under the chin and over the top of the head, where it may be tied or clipped.

For burial at sea, the body has traditionally been sewn into a length of canvas of standard width and about 4.5 metres in length, weighted by fire bars sewn to the canvas on either side of the legs below the knees. It is probable that these items may not be available on a modern ship. In seeking substitutes, bear in mind that the shroud needs to be made of a very strong material and the weights sufficiently heavy to ensure rapid sinking and permanent submersion of the body. There should be three or four slits or openings in the material to allow the gases of decomposition to escape and prevent flotation due to trapped air. Burial should not take place in soundings any part of the world.

After preparation, the body should be placed upon an improvised platform resting on the ship's side-rail and a suitable trestle or other support, covered by a ship's flag, secured to the inboard edge of the platform. Wooden blocks screwed under the platform and resting against the ship's side-rail will prevent the platform slidding outboard when the inboard end is raised to allow the body to slide from under the flag into the sea. It is very important to ensure that the whole operation proceeds smoothly and respectfully without unseemly mishaps. If the ship is small and there is a heavy sea, precautions must be taken to ensure that the body will not prematurely lost and will not fail to drop cleanly into the sea at the right moment. This may warrant fastening guide-rails on the platform. The seamen allocated to perform the disposal must be carefully briefed. On receipt of a discreet signal, they must raise the inboard end of the platform to allow the body to slide from under the flag into the sea.

When the family is notified that the remains were committed to the deep, the Ship's Master should indicate the longitude and latitude where this took place. Also, the master should find out if the next-of-kin wants the flag sent to the family with the personal effects of the deceased.

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:34

no joy with any bellamys william or john commited to the sea

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:32

hi this is jase kathy,s husband over the years we have been doing our reasearch we have come across many things letters appearing in surnames letters disapearing respelling of surnames to register a death birth marriage was not a legal requirement until 1871 up until then you had to pay people told porkies about where they were born incase they were moved on back to place of origin this gene,s lark is a maze you have to tread careful to get the correct information after 4 years im still trying to locate my grandfather dad what a nightmare just becareful what is good info and what is crap good luck with your search it was a pleasure trying to help you

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:24

and i could not find a john bellamy born 1821 or about in exeter

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:24

this is why i thought he may have changed his name! everything fits place birth sailor ? what do you think

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:23

John Bellamy
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: A B Seaman (Seaman)
Gender: Male
Where born: Exeter, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Off Cromer
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:19

where did you find this lol i have been looking for eva

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:19

that must be him in 1860 then as he was born 1821 that makes him the exact age!

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:16

so if he died in 1860 he will not be on any census after 1851 or was he still called william what evidence do you have he was buried at sea i suppose anyone commited to the sea they would plot location of buriel at sea on ocean maps and plots will look up buriels at sea

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:12

makes him 39 in 1860 also these are the only john bellamys in 1861 which one is he

Results in the 1861 Census for John Bellamy from 1821
Sort by: Age Area
Surname Forename Age District
Bellamy John 40 Lincoln North-East, Lincoln View
Bellamy John 40 Louth, Louth View

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:10

Deaths Mar 1860 (>99%
Bellamy William Exeter

does it give his age at death? could work it out if it does

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:09

ok thanx the the thing is he was a sailor so would he have been buried at sea?

Kathy

Kathy Report 6 Dec 2008 19:03

leave that with me simon,and i will look agan!

Robin

Robin Report 6 Dec 2008 19:02

thankx kathy the problem with that is i believe william bellamy is on the 1861 census as john bellamy

Swizz

Swizz Report 6 Dec 2008 18:54

hi simone kathy again i think this last record does support why frances sophia remarried ,has i would take it william died march 1860 hope this helps kathy.