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At last I've discovered a male Pinfield - Henry Pinfield married Rebecca Day in 1821 in Huntingdonshire.

Jan

Yes, I'm backtracking using both Penfield and Pinfield. I keep finding mothers and grandmothers, but no fathers or grandfathers.

I have the feeling that Mr. Pilarski, if there was one, was just passing through, and happened to meet Emma Pinfield. I'll send for Antonia's birth cert. next to see if it says anything about the father, though I would have to take it with a pinch of salt anyway.

I wondered why my late husband used to tell such tall stories, obviously it was in his blood.

Jan

Would be nice to find a marriage for Emma to Mr Pilarski, wonder if his name was Leopold??

Dee x

I hope you noticed the Penfield alteration to Pinfield
1851?
Emma Penfield Rebecca abt 1831 London, England Daughter St Pancras, Middlesex

Thank you, Denise, I've sent a message and will wait impatiently for a reply.

Jan

Jim, I think all three you listed are correct. In the 1901 he's shown as Upholsterer, which was on his marriage cert. in August 1901.

He went on to become Manager in charge of timber production in Argentina for Maples, I've found records of him, his wife Amelia, and daughter Dorothy (my dreaded mother in law), travelling back and forth, first class. So from dubious beginnings he certainly made good.

Thanks to everyone for all your help, its certainly been a very interesting afternoon for me, I hope you all enjoyed it too.

Jan

Hi Jan,

If you click on them you can send them a message.

Do you have a subscription to Ancestry??

Dee

Denise, how do I contact that tree owner?

Thanks Jim, I'll have a look.

Jan

1901
Arther Hughes abt 1872 Marylebone, London, England Boarder St Pancras,
1891
Arthur L Hughes abt 1871 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Visitor Blackburn, Lancashire
1881
Artil Power George,
Antonice abt 1875 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Son Marlebone, London

OOOhhhh,

It's got George Lemon (power) on it too.

Hi Jan,

The is a tree on Ancestry for Antonia, you would need to contact the owner though, because it's locked.

Dee x

if his father was an actor - that could have been his latest role!

perhaps Arthur had a 'wicked' sense of humour!!!

Christine

On the whole, I don't find death certificates give very much new information, so only buy them as a last resort (penny pinching).

Now I'm trying to find Arthur L Hughes, born 1873 Marylebone, in the 1901.

In August 1901 he married, gave his occupation as Upholsterer, which I assume was the start of his employment with Maples of London. He also gave his father's occupation as Secretary to the Maharajah of Madras, I wonder if that was just a tarradiddle?

Jan

Jan

Hi Jan,

Wonder if this could tell you anymore;

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1929 (87%)
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Power Antonia 72 Brentford 3a 148


Dee x

Hi Jan ,

The 1901 says Actor, spotted that 1 too.

Dee x

Thanks for that, Denise - I can see that this is going to keep me very busy for quite a while sorting it all out.

I've just found a George and Antonia Power in the 1901, in lodgings in Liverpool with a Benjamin (relation to Head - brother). Looks as if they get younger every 10 years. I can't quite read their occupations, because its overwritten, but could easily be Actor. Could anyone have a look for me? Their dates of birth this time are 1860 for George and 1862 for Antonia. Not bad for a birth registered in 1854.

Jan

Hi Jan,

Just for interest;

1861 England Census
about George Lemon
Name: George Lemon
[George Power]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Fannie
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Fannie Lemon 39
George Lemon 5
Hannah Lemon 11
Isabella Lemon 8
Fannie Power 19
Jesse Power 17
Rosine Power 20
Frederick Stevens 28(lodger)


The mother Fannie is a teacher of dancing, looks like George had the actor/dancing in his blood.

Looks like someone else is tracing this line with the correction made.
Dee x

sounds more like it Jan

my gt grandmother was married to someone else when she had my granddad

but she put herself down on the cert as being married to his father - but we know she never was!!

Christine

Christine, my starting point on this is the birth certificate of Arthur Leopold Hughes, 1873, which gives his parents as Arthur Alfred Hughes and Antonia formerly Pilarski.

I can't find a record of a Hughes/Pilarski marriage, so perhaps they weren't. So Arthur L is her son, but not George Powers'.

Jan

Jan,
Just noticed that!

All the census returns must be for the Antonia you are searching also birth for her and marriage to George.